Robert Fiskhe attack on Beirut

[Guest shiloh357]

It was posted about here .

That's like one paragraph. What is that source? What do the initials IDF stand for?

Israel Defense Forces

[anti-hillbilly]

It was posted about here .

That's like one paragraph. What is that source? What do the initials IDF stand for?

Israel Defense Forces

Thanks.

Okay; things that make you go hmmmm?

[Scarletprayers]

Hate to say it -

But I am sure you will get your chance.

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Did you see t he headline about the Arab children in Nazereth who got killed by the Hezbollah rockets are being called martyrs?

There's your responsibility, Amor.

Not too sure of your point here. I'm not a supporter of either Hezbollah or Hamas both vicious fundementalist organisations. What I criticise is the brutality and indiscriminate nature of the Israeli response.

Really...............hummmm its awful funny the only time you seem to bring up anything about it is when your talking about Israel.

[amor]

And Hezbollah or Hamas aren't being indescriminate and brutal?

Those missles they launch have no aim and contain pellets meant to shoot through people outside the blast area.

Of course they are, but I repeat I'm not here to defend Hamas or Hezbollah. Firing missiles at or indeed killing in any other way civillians be they Lebanese or Israeli; Jew, Christian, Mulim Jew or Atheist is an evil act.

[amor]

Hate to say it -

But I am sure you will get your chance.

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Did you see t he headline about the Arab children in Nazereth who got killed by the Hezbollah rockets are being called martyrs?

There's your responsibility, Amor.

Not too sure of your point here. I'm not a supporter of either Hezbollah or Hamas both vicious fundementalist organisations. What I criticise is the brutality and indiscriminate nature of the Israeli response.

Really...............hummmm its awful funny the only time you seem to bring up anything about it is when your talking about Israel.

Probably because this place is not noted for threads applauding the or trying to excuse the thuggery of Hamas and Hezbullah. And I'm sure that others will agree that I have also been quite forthright in my condemnation of the Anglo-American invasion of Iraq. So Israel is not my only concern.

If you actually bother reading the article I posted you will also note that Fisk has no sympathy for Hezbullah and its Iranian and Syrian backers.

[ted]

Wow!

Hey River, it has been a while, huh?

Good to see you.

Israel will do what it wants despite what the news reports. They have a unique way of getting the job done regardless of who says what. I reckon that comes with having to live with this stuff everyday. Who are we to say what they should do about their problem? I don't remember any calls from Israel to show "restraint" when we were attacked in 2001. We should show our dear friends the same courtesy and let them deal with Hezbollah and Hamas. Years of Israel listening to us and the world has led to the problem in the first place. We diplomatically tie their hands at each turn, although we say we stand with them.

What kind of talk is that?

Sometimes, it's kinda hard to blame the arabs for their tactics because they work so well on the world stage. All they have to do is create a problem, get on their box and scream. The world, of course, will listen every time.

Nothing Israel ever does will change that, so they have to forge ahead without 98% of the world's support.

Lebanon would not be a target if they would not allow Hezbollah there in the first place. Lebanon is either allowing them in to operate or powerless to stop them from coming in. One of the two.

Either way, they have proven themselves to be ineffective to handle the situation. If they really wanted them out, they will stop crying on TV and join the fight to rid their own country of Hezbollah. Now, how deep will their commitment be? I guess that remains to be seen. I'm betting my stash that the Lebanese Government will do nothing to help rid their own country of Hezbollah. Their best bet is to step back, let Israel handle it, and then reap the bennies of the US money that will pour in to rebuild southern Lebanon when the fighting is over.

In the mean time, Israel is a little tired of being bombed and having their soldiers kidnapped. So what is the answer?

Perhaps they should give up more land? That worked like a peach, huh?

The answer is painful to understand but so glaringly simple: We have to deal with those that set up and fund these groups.

For those that squeal about our troops in Iraq: have no fear. They will be coming home soon for a much needed rest. During this rest, they will prepare for the invasion of Iran. As long as the leadership remains the same in Iran, the hammer will continue to remain cocked and loaded over their heads.

Trying to eliminate Hezbollah without dealing with Iran and Syria is like wiping the pus out of an infection without taking the antibiotics to kill it. It simply has to be dealt with at the source. And, like any infection, you have to take the entire prescription for it to work, not just until the symptoms go away. Band-Aids and meaningless treaties will always fail, as they have in the past.

I'd like to see Syria and Iran come to terms with this without us having to deal with them through arms. That would be nice, but as things look today, it's going to be a hard sell.

I pray for all the people in that area in the hopes that God will have mercy and put an end to the fighting.

In Him,

t.

[nebula]

As always - well spoken, Ted!