an invitation from a moslem !

[Floatingaxe]

What gets me upset is that Muslims all over the world are doing horrific things and You do not see any protesting against it. Yet those who follow Islam talk about the extreme ones and not being in agreement- But do you see them protesting against these extremist.

Excellent point, Candi! You don't see them crying out against their own, do you?

[mohammad99]

A good muslim performs do both 'the heart' and 'the body' duties. If he has the six beliefs but doesn't perform the five rituals he is still a muslim unless he rejects them.

Then surely it is true to say that a Muslim is simply someone who believes certain things about a deity?

hi pointer !!

Anyone who believes in the esentials of Islam is a Muslim provided he doesn't come up with blasphemy : any belief, action, or saying which belittles Allah, His Books, His Messengers, His Angels, His Rites, His Rules, His Promise, or His Threat.

But a good Muslim is someone who believes and practises Islamic duties. Someone who believes in the essential of Islam but (for instance) drinks alcohol or commits adultery is still a muslim. But his status is inferior to a muslim who believes and does his islamic duties. the muslim who does bad deeds deserves Alla's punishment. He may go to Hell. But he won't stay there for ever. At any case the status of a Muslim wrongdoer is far better than an infidel who does good things.

In conclusion: if a Muslim commits a sin, which is less than blasphemy and dies without repenting to Allah of the sin, then this sin is counted against him on the Day of Judgment. Similarly, if a Muslim follows Allah's orders, in obedience to Him, this is counted in his favor. Allah knows all of this and nothing escapes Him.

When a Muslim commits sins, he must repent of them immediately. To repent of blasphemy, one must utter the two Testification of Faith, which are: "I testify that no one is God but Allah, and I testify that Mohammad is The Messenger of Allah."clearing himself of the committed blasphemy.

For sins less than blasphemy, the immediate repentance of them is obligatory upon every accountable person.

Repentence comprises: regretting, quitting and intending not to return to them, if the sin is leaving out an obligation one makes it up, and if the sin involves a right to a human, one must satisfy it or seek the person's satisfaction.

Allah is ever-merciful to the Muslim and no matter how many times he sins in his life, if he stops it, regrets having done it, and intends not to do it again, he will be forgiven by Allah. But for those who are non-Muslim, no matter what good things they do, those deeds are not to their credit in the Hereafter; they must first become Muslim.

Bye !!!

[mohammad99]

What gets me upset is that Muslims all over the world are doing horrific things and You do not see any protesting against it. Yet those who follow Islam talk about the extreme ones and not being in agreement- But do you see them protesting against these extremist.

Hi Candy !!

It seems , from your talk, that Muslims are responsible for all the "horrific things" that the world is witnessing !! it seems as if muslims are doing these horrors just for sheer pleasure!!!

As for the Jews in Palestine and Lebanon and the GI's in iraq and Afghanistan , they are doing a praiseworthy job

Some common sense ,folk !!!

[mohammad99]

[Copper Scroll]

Anyone who believes in the esentials of Islam is a Muslim provided he doesn't come up with blasphemy : any belief, action, or saying which belittles Allah, His Books, His Messengers, His Angels, His Rites, His Rules, His Promise, or His Threat.

I haven't been following this thread, so forgive me. What are these "essentials"? If you've already posted them, then just point me in the right direction. Thanks, Mohammad.

[mohammad99]

Does Allah Love..?

You make no mention of the Love of Allah..In all of your post I see nowhere the words that Allah is Love.

If it is Allah who WILLS everything, then what assurance do you have of salvation..?

The God of the bible initiated the process to reconcile all men to himself. Do you see that..?? God himself came looking for US, because he Loves us.

I do not see this with Allah. I do not see the Love of God in the Islamic God.

I do not see a God who loves his people when I look at Islam. I see a people who fear their God so much that they must appease him with works of righteousness that MIGHT earn them salvation, but still that is no assurance as it is Allah who Wills.

How will you ever know the Love of God if you must wait until you die to experience it...???

What then is the point of serving Allah NOW..??

Regards,

Ben.

[mohammad99]

Why not start answering or defending your faith instead of telling us your view on Christrianity?

You are not a coward like the Hezbollah are you? Hiding and entrenching themselves deep amongst civilian populace made up mainly of women and children? Or those suidecide bombers who blow up innocents in peak hours?

You can visit my questions on page 7 and 9

hi vox !!

what questions? I did try to find them but couldnt!! Just rewrite them .

[mohammad99]

Anyone who believes in the esentials of Islam is a Muslim provided he doesn't come up with blasphemy : any belief, action, or saying which belittles Allah, His Books, His Messengers, His Angels, His Rites, His Rules, His Promise, or His Threat.

I haven't been following this thread, so forgive me. What are these "essentials"? If you've already posted them, then just point me in the right direction. Thanks, Mohammad.

Part One :CREED

In his HEART a muslim one has to :

1- believe that there is One, Unique God who is unlike anything you see or you picture in your mind. The Attributes of Allah do not change, develop, or transform, because those processes belong to the attributes of the creation.

2- believe in All prophets from Adam to the Last prophet ( Mohammad). All the prophets preached for One God and they didn't sin

3- believe in in God's Angels. There are so many and they are sinless

4- Believe in All Divine books the most famous are four : a Book revealed to Torah (Moses), Zabur ( David); the Injil ( Jesus) and the Koran ( mohammad). the first three books have been corrupted by man. But the Koran is still protected by God

5- believe in the existence of the resurrection and Paradise and Hell

6-believe that what happens to creatures is willed and known to God before its occurence

[size=3]Part Two Practices:

There are five things that a muslim must DO:

1- proclaim that there is no god but One, Unique God and Mohammad is his prophet

2- pray 5 times a day

3- give alms to the poor if possible

4- fast one month (Ramadan)

5- make pilgrimage to Mecca if possible

A good muslim performs do both 'the heart' and 'the body' duties. If he has the six beliefs but doesn't perform the five rituals he is still a muslim unless he rejects them.

this is ,in brief, a definition of islam

[nebula]

hi Rede***d !!

Hmm . . . sounds like you have a little bit of trouble with the word redeemed.

Revelation 5:6-14

6 And I looked, and behold, in the midst of the throne and of the four living creatures, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as though it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent out into all the earth.

7 Then He came and took the scroll out of the right hand of Him who sat on the throne.

8 Now when He had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each having a harp, and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints.

9 And they sang a new song, saying: "You are worthy to take the scroll, And to open its seals; For You were slain, And have redeemed us to God by Your blood Out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation,

10 And have made us kings and priests to our God; And we shall reign on the earth."

11 Then I looked, and I heard the voice of many angels around the throne, the living creatures, and the elders; and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands,

12 saying with a loud voice: "Worthy is the Lamb who was slain To receive power and riches and wisdom, And strength and honor and glory and blessing!"

13 And every creature which is in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, I heard saying: "Blessing and honor and glory and power Be to Him who sits on the throne, And to the Lamb, forever and ever!"

14 Then the four living creatures said, "Amen!" And the twenty-four elders fell down and worshiped Him who lives forever and ever.

[CellShade]

What gets me upset is that Muslims all over the world are doing horrific things and You do not see any protesting against it. Yet those who follow Islam talk about the extreme ones and not being in agreement- But do you see them protesting against these extremist.

Right on target

What gets me upset is that Muslims all over the world are doing horrific things and You do not see any protesting against it. Yet those who follow Islam talk about the extreme ones and not being in agreement- But do you see them protesting against these extremist.

Hi Candy !!

It seems , from your talk, that Muslims are responsible for all the "horrific things" that the world is witnessing !! it seems as if muslims are doing these horrors just for sheer pleasure!!!

Well , not all, but most of them, actually the devil is doing them throught islam.

Sorry mohammad, you may sound like a nice guy, but the quran doesn't sound nice at all.

Also we believe God(Jesus) is Love, Love wasn't created, God is Love itself.

That is why "hate" is a sin, because it's contrary to Love, and that means it is contrary to Jesus Christ God.