Matthew 4

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Matt 4:5 Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple,

devil - g1228 - prone to slander, slanderous, accusing falsely a calumniator, false accuser, slanderer, metaph. applied to a man who, by opposing the cause of God, may be said to act the part of the devil or to side with him

setteth - g2476 - to cause or make to stand, to place, put, set, to bid, to stand by, [set up] in the presence of others, in the midst, before judges, before members of the Sanhedrin; to place to make firm, fix establish, to cause a person or a thing to keep his or its place, to stand, be kept intact (of family, a kingdom), to escape in safety, to establish a thing, cause it to stand, to uphold or sustain the authority or force of anything, to set or place in a balance to weigh: money to one (because in very early times before the introduction of coinage, the metals used to be weighed), to stand, to stand by or near, to stop, stand still, to stand immovable, stand firm, of the foundation of a building, to stand, continue safe and sound, stand unharmed, to stand ready or prepared to be of a steadfast mind of quality, one who does not hesitate, does not waiver

pinnacle - g4419 - a wing, a little wing, any pointed extremity, of fins of fishes, of part of a dress hanging down in the form of a wing, of the top of the temple at Jerusalem

temple - g2411 - a sacred place, temple used of the temple of Artemis at Ephesus used of the temple at Jerusalem

When read with the meanings applied;

Matt 4:5 Then the (devil) applied to a man who, by opposing the cause of God, may be said to act the part of the devil or to side with him taketh him up into the holy city, and (setteth) set up (establish) in the presence of others him on a (pinnacle) of the top of the temple of the (temple) at Jerusalem,

How does this apply to me?

This tempter had the religious authority of ordained ministers of the

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Matt 4:6 And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.

Son - 5207 - ......... those who in character and life resemble God, those who are governed by the Spirit of God, repose the same calm and joyful trust in God which children do in their parents, and hereafter in the blessedness and glory of the life eternal will openly wear this dignity of the sons of God; used preeminently of Jesus Christ, as enjoying the supreme love of God, united to him in affectionate intimacy, privy to his saving councils, obedient to the Father's will in all his acts

God - g2316 - god or goddess, a general name of deities or divinities the Godhead, trinity God the Father, the first person in the trinity Christ, the second person of the trinity Holy Spirit, the third person in the trinity spoken of the only and true God, refers to the things of God his counsels, interests, things due to him, whatever can in any respect be likened unto God, or resemble him in any way God's representative or viceregent of magistrates and judges

cast - g906 - to throw or let go of a thing without caring where it falls

written - g1125 - to commit to writing (things not to be forgotten), write down, record

angels - g32 - a messenger, envoy, one who is sent, an angel, a messenger from God

dash - g4350 - to strike against, of those who strike against a stone or other obstacle in the path, to stumble, to strike one's foot against a stone, i.e. to meet with some harm; to rush upon, beat against, to be made to stumble by a thing i.e. metaph. to be induced to sin

foot - g4228 - foot, both of men or beast, often in the orient, one put his foot on, vanquished, of disciples listening to their teacher's instruction, are said to be at his feet

stone - g3037 - a stone, of small stones, of building stones, metaph. of Christ

When read with the meanings applied;

Matt 4:6 And saith unto him, If thou be the Son (who in character and life resembles God, who is governed by the Spirit of God) of God (refers to the things of God his counsels, interests, things due to him), cast (let go of a thing without caring where it falls) thyself down: for it is written (to commit to writing (things not to be forgotten), He shall give his angels (messengers from God) charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash (of those who strike against a stone or other obstacle in the path) thy foot

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against a stone (of building stones).

How does this apply to me?

This verse shows me that the tempter was a chief priest in the temple at Jerusalem. He said to Yeshua,

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Matt 4:7 Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

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At his baptism of John, the personality and character of God came upon Yeshua to do the work of God in the power of God.  (We know this is true because his ministry surprised all of his relatives except his mother. 

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At his baptism of John, the personality and character of God came upon Yeshua to do the work of God in the power of God.

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At his baptism of John, the personality and character of God came upon Yeshua to do the work of God in the power of God.

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Matt 4:8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and showeth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;

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Matt 4:9 And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.

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Matt 4:10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

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When he was 12 years old he was making statements and asking questions of the priests at the temple.    And, yes, by the time his ministry began Yeshua was "monogenes theos."

It is not so strange to me that people can hear the prophesies that he would die on the dross to save us from our sin.  But most people don't seem to want to know that Yeshua also gave the example of how to turn to God.  That example would have been incomplete had Yeshua not have had to learn God's word just like everyone else.  And God does not leave anything incomplete.

FewWereChosen,

I find this whole sad saga with you and VOG so facinating. You post both heresy and a statement that is completely illogical. To believe the prophecies has nothing to do with Jesus teaching us how to turn to God. Jesus did not have to learn God's Word because He had given those Words to both Moses and the prophets.

Jesus did teach us how to turn to God in John 3:16.

I don't know if you are genuinely confused are jusy genuinely trying to be confusing.

Either way I warn any new believers to be very suspicious of your theology in this post.

The Bible is very clear. Jesus was God from all eternity. There was never a time from His birth that he did not have the personality and powers of God. The mystery of the incaranation is what facinated both John and Luke. Which is why the doctor wrote so much about the virgin birth and John spent so much time with the amazing fact that God could become flesh and dwell among us.

- Steve

(back in hiding)