Practicing Judo and being right with God

[Manji]

Manji, are you going after Floating Axe because she told you in another thread, as did I, that what you were doing (non scriptural meditation that has its roots in buddhism) is a sin?

No. It is about my conversation with Floatingaxe that has gotten me perplexed. I mean, look at floatingaxe's latest post. Do you agree with this or not?

Edited August 24, 2006 by Manji

[Guest LadyC]

i understood what she was saying when i first read her post, even if i don't agree with the thinking behind it. i understood without her spelling it out that she was concerned about the ungodly religious aspect that martial arts is based on...

There's no way you can argue that by floatingaxe saying this, "As I seek to serve God with my whole life, I just have no time or inclination for anything like that. Furthermore, why would a martial art like Judo have any attraction? Throwing a fellow human being down is considered a joyous occasion and God-honouring? Hardly." that he/she will not do it because of what it might be based on. But because God has him/her to be this way.

He she is saying, I do not do Judo because, because it is not interesting, not because it is related to other religion, but because of God.

Now let me explain in more depth.... Read carefully.

Floatingaxe told me in a msn messenger conversation there form floatingaxe, he/she would not do Judo because it is a sin for him/her. Not because of its relationship to the other religion. but because of God. I explained to floatingaxe that it is not related to foreign religion and that person still said they wouldn't do it because they want to give their all to God and not a part.

Well, there you have it. Floatingaxe said he/she does not do certain activities because of God.

So my question is, is this possible from a Christian perspective to have this from God? Or is it just plain old silly? Please share your expertise. Thank You.

manji, i have no expertise. but as i said, i don't think it was devine revelation from God to understand where she was coming from. if i can grasp it, then it can't be too difficult a concept.

furthermore, your personal conversations via msn are personal. thank you for pointing out that i should never have a private conversation with you if i don't want it to be publicized.

i do not see anything wrong with a christian practicing the PHYSICAL DISCIPLINE of judo. but you're wrong in thinking that it has no relationship to any other religion. if you'll take some time to do even the most basic research on judo or other martial arts, you'll find that i'm correct.

for HER, she feels that judo would hinder her spiritual walk. and for her to do something that would hinder her walk with Christ would absolutely be a sin. for her, it would not glorify God to engage in this activity. it does not mean that she is unable to glorify God in other activities. nor does it mean that other individuals can't find a way to glorify God learning judo... even if axe has trouble with that perspective.

i believe you are singling axe out to pick on her. i don't know why, and it doesn't matter why... i'm just saying that is what appears to be happening.

[Floatingaxe]

As I seek to serve God with my whole life, I just have no time or inclination for anything like that. Furthermore, why would a martial art like Judo have any attraction? Throwing a fellow human being down is considered a joyous occasion and God-honouring? Hardly.

OK there is my quote. Where was I referring to basketball?

[Manji]

As I seek to serve God with my whole life, I just have no time or inclination for anything like that. Furthermore, why would a martial art like Judo have any attraction? Throwing a fellow human being down is considered a joyous occasion and God-honouring? Hardly.

OK there is my quote. Where was I referring to basketball?

I wasn't saying that you were talking about Basketball in that quote but that you were talking about Judo in that quote that what was how I started the thread if memory serves me correct.

[Manji]

i understood what she was saying when i first read her post, even if i don't agree with the thinking behind it. i understood without her spelling it out that she was concerned about the ungodly religious aspect that martial arts is based on...

There's no way you can argue that by floatingaxe saying this, "As I seek to serve God with my whole life, I just have no time or inclination for anything like that. Furthermore, why would a martial art like Judo have any attraction? Throwing a fellow human being down is considered a joyous occasion and God-honouring? Hardly." that he/she will not do it because of what it might be based on. But because God has him/her to be this way.

He she is saying, I do not do Judo because, because it is not interesting, not because it is related to other religion, but because of God.

Now let me explain in more depth.... Read carefully.

Floatingaxe told me in a msn messenger conversation there form floatingaxe, he/she would not do Judo because it is a sin for him/her. Not because of its relationship to the other religion. but because of God. I explained to floatingaxe that it is not related to foreign religion and that person still said they wouldn't do it because they want to give their all to God and not a part.

Well, there you have it. Floatingaxe said he/she does not do certain activities because of God.

So my question is, is this possible from a Christian perspective to have this from God? Or is it just plain old silly? Please share your expertise. Thank You.

manji, i have no expertise. but as i said, i don't think it was devine revelation from God to understand where she was coming from. if i can grasp it, then it can't be too difficult a concept.

furthermore, your personal conversations via msn are personal. thank you for pointing out that i should never have a private conversation with you if i don't want it to be publicized.

i do not see anything wrong with a christian practicing the PHYSICAL DISCIPLINE of judo. but you're wrong in thinking that it has no relationship to any other religion. if you'll take some time to do even the most basic research on judo or other martial arts, you'll find that i'm correct.

for HER, she feels that judo would hinder her spiritual walk. and for her to do something that would hinder her walk with Christ would absolutely be a sin. for her, it would not glorify God to engage in this activity. it does not mean that she is unable to glorify God in other activities. nor does it mean that other individuals can't find a way to glorify God learning judo... even if axe has trouble with that perspective.

i believe you are singling axe out to pick on her. i don't know why, and it doesn't matter why... i'm just saying that is what appears to be happening.

I understand now that it is not silly to you for a person to consider that Judo practice is a hinderance to a spiritual goal is a personal descision and that just because someone does does not mean it is hindering their spiritual goal. I can now understand this and go on with a clear conscious. Thanks for clarification and sorry about the picking on. I did not want it to come off that way.

[Guest]

If Judo is out I guess all wrestling is out!

And, I can't watch the Olympics!

And, I got to give up WWF!

Oh well, Oh, sigh!

:-)

Love, Joe

PS: Anything can be a hindrance to a spiritual goal!

Shopping for hot cars

Cleaning house

Campaigning for Political candidates.

Weight lifting.

It seems to me that it takes God to change the heart.

I have worked out on the past, including in Dojos,

and I know It was my heart that needed changing!

God is still changing it!

So, if you want to sweat and bounce around the gym with your buddies, go ahead!

[eric]

I practsed judo for some years and Judo freely translated is * the gentle way* It is a defensive sport, not an offensive one. If you want to learn about self defence, take up Judo. Sure it has it's roots in Japan, but has nothing to do with bhuddism or meditation. It's about defeating your opponent by the clever manipulting and the using of his own strength to defeat him. It is one of the safest of contact sports.