God's awfully mean.

[Candi770]

Arialia,

God doesn't force himself on anyone. We have not because we ask not. If you put your trust in anything but the Lord, how can you expect God to move on your behalf. If people are out of the will of God, living life apart from Him, why would you expect Him to move on their behalf. But have you been there everytime that when someone sincerely called out to Him for help and He answered their prayer-I think not. Sin causes seperation from the Father. God has no desire for suffering, hunger and sickness. God sends many labors into the path of suffering to minister in Jesus Name. Arialia, if God could save you right now He would, but according to His Word, you must make the first move. He gives you the choice. Don't blame him when you set your heart against him-It's you. He is a good God.

[Candi770]

Arialia,

In hell, no one will be comforted by their idols, those you have spoken. It will be a cell or a pit that one will spend eternity with flames that will not be quinched and worms that forever crawl through the flesh and bones that remain and never die. The demons are there to torment the poor souls day and night-=with no rest, thirst for eternity that will never be quinched. And no peaceful moments of relaxation. And absolutely no one to comfort you, not even Darwin. Darwin wouldn't even want you there and wouldn't wish it on his worst enemy. Have you ever seen a demon?

[SteveMcqueen]

Why does God allow such atrocious pain and suffering? If god is responsible for the every individual born into this Earth, then why would he allow some poor child in Africa to be born to a mother with AIDS? Why would he allow somebody to be born if he knew he or she would starve to death in less than a month

[SteveMcqueen]

i feel your anger. I feel your pain, and empathize with you steve.

It was this type of anger and pain from being hurt by people and feeling outcast that drove me toward God, yet i did not know it was happening until the pain was great enough.

Are you implying that I

[eric]

Well, Steve, I hope you dont finish up with the same shockingly painfful type of lung cancer that your idol and name sake, died of. He was only fifty too, but at least he gave his life to Christ before he died and became a born again christian and even ran a christian programme during the last years of his life.

Even tough guys can make it to eternity with the Lord, but they need God and His son to be able to do it.

What's cool about drinking beer and smoking pot and watching porno. Huh, you call that cool. The real Steve didn't think so, that's why he sought after the victory over his habits, thru the saving grace of the Lord Jesus Christ. Try it, mate, it could save your soul.

[Guest Theology_Professor]

God loves his children does he not? Yet out of the 6 billion people who live on the planet today, only the 1.7 or so who are of the Christian faith will go to heaven, according to God

[Arthur Durnan]

Gee whiz, Steve Kid, I did watch your "Escape" movie and was fascinated with your acting. I am equally fascinated by your association with the folly of self-concocted "atheism." Yes, Buddhists (both Mahayana & Hinanyana), Hindus, Sikhs, etc, do certainly exist, but

"atheism" is but a crock-pot of unmitigated disaster in that it proposes the "certainty" of God's non-existence EVEN THO NONE OF ITS ADHERENTS can assure us of the Creator-God's non-residence on Kapteyn's Star, Barnard's Star, on Saturn's many moons, whatever. How can anyone state categorically "There is NO God!" when he doesn't know for sure?! Then, too, if you feel God is foolhardy re many non-Christian beliefs, why aren't you just as concerned with traffic consultants who insist that red lights at intersections mean only stop? Or police officials who maintain that speed limits are speed limits and rejection of such will cost some pretty bucks? Those in places of authority dictate what's allowable or non-allowable. A God who created things must also be accorded the authority to declare how his creation will live & what its future will be. Otherwise, expand your limited view re human laws and authority with their prescribed penalties for disdain.

http://arthurdurnan.freeyellow.com

[redeemed098]

Why does God allow such atrocious pain and suffering? If god is responsible for the every individual born into this Earth, then why would he allow some poor child in Africa to be born to a mother with AIDS? Why would he allow somebody to be born if he knew he or she would starve to death in less than a month’s time? What a cruel deity.

Where did the aids come from...? Why is there famine in their land...? You cant complain about the lie at the end of the chain....You must look at the lie at the beginning...."How such a large bushfire begins with just a small spark.." You cannot break the Law and then turn and blame the Lawmaker. What you are seeing is the very effects of disobedience to God.

What you are seeing is the effects of sin..Idolatry and disobedience to God...and now youre complaining about God..It is YOU who is the sinner..Do you see the total hypocrisy and futility of your stance...Sin causes all this to happen and you are a sinner too..NO one elses sins will ever excuse your own..Looking to blame a God wont help you..Especially considering you dont believe in him an all...! He sets before you life and death, blessings and curses and you choose death and curses, and you call God cruel..??

God is perfectly righteous and Just in every decision that he makes. Unlike man who is completely corrupt and UNjust.

"Far be it for the God of all creation to do anything WRONG." If he does anything at all Mr Mcqeen, you can be assured its perfectly RIGHT regardless of your own opinion on the matter..Listen carefully....!

"When I shut up the heavens, so that there is no rain (drought) or command locusts to devour the land (famine) or send a plague (disease) among my people, if my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin, and HEAL THEIR LAND." 2 Chronicles 7:13,14.

Land that needs healing Mr McQueen is suffering the effects of disobedience to God. If you want to see a picture of what brings about that disobedience, then read Deuteronomy Chapters 28 through 31. Once you have read this....Take a look at the world you are now living in, in the light of what you have just read. You will have a better understanding of WHY the world is suffering. SIN......!!!!!!!!!!! You wont be ready to hear about the good news of Jesus until you can recognise that YOU are part of the BAD news.

" There is none who is righteous, no not one, for ALL have fallen short of the glory of God." You included Mr McQueen. You need to throw yourself on the mercy of the Judge..The perfectly righteous Judge..You CAN be redeemed, but first you have to see your need for redemption.

Regards,

Ben.

[Floatingaxe]

You didn't refute my point though. The Bible states that those who do not accept Jesus are condemned allready. Why does God wish to send billions of people to eternal pain simply because they didn't accept him? Are these people "bad" or "evil?"

It is not His desire to do so. It is sin He cannot live with. We are inherently sinful. You do the math.

[Floatingaxe]

I'd certainly rather be in Hell, with Hawking and Dawkins and Darwin and Einstein.

So, they are your gods?

No, they are just the people I'd like to spend eternity with =) Who wouldn't want to spend eternity with Dawkins? *swoon*

Sadly, your words will one day come back to haunt you.

Doubtfully. I'm still swooning for my "God", Dawkins. I'd rather be in the Hell for bad people than the Heaven for bad people.

Who is Dawkins??

Anyway--Hell is no party--people exist alone in their terror and pain..there is no camaraderie! It is a place not created for humanity, but for fallen spirits. You don't want to share in their punishment, do you?