Baptism of the Holy Ghost

[Guest tiggr]

Greetings in Jesus Christ

I would like to pose a question. When does one recieve the baptism of the Holy Ghost? How do you/they know that they have recieved it,and please show scriptures to back up what you are saying

Tiggr

[endure4salvation]

Do you mean the Holy Spirit?

[jesusislord]

LET US START WITH THE BAPTISM IN THE HOLY GHOST... WHEN IT WAS FIRST FOR TOLD OF.

JOHN the BAPTIST spoke about it .

Mat 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and [with] fire:

Mar 1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.

Luk 3:16 John answered, saying unto [them] all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire:

Jhn 1:33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost

Than let su go to what JESUS said about it.

Jhn 20:22 And when he had said this, he breathed on [them], and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:

Act 1:2 Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen:

Act 1:5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.

Act 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

Mar 13:11 But when they shall lead [you], and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost.

Luk 12:12 For the Holy Ghost shall teach you in the same hour what ye ought to say.

Jhn 7:39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet [given]; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

Jhn 14:26 But the Comforter, [which is] the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

Now let us see the action of the HOLY GHOST. (SPIRIT)

Act 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

Act 2:33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.

Act 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Act 4:8 Then Peter, filled with the Holy Ghost, said unto them, Ye rulers of the people, and elders of Israel,

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Act 4:31 And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness.

Act 5:3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back [part] of the price of the land?

Act 5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and [so is] also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.

Act 6:3 Wherefore, brethren, look ye out among you seven men of honest report, full of the Holy Ghost and wisdom, whom we may appoint over this business.

Act 6:5 And the saying pleased the whole multitude: and they chose Stephen, a man full of faith and of the Holy Ghost, and Philip, and Prochorus, and Nicanor, and Timon, and Parmenas, and Nicolas a proselyte of Antioch

Act 7:51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers [did], so [do] ye.

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Act 7:55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,

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Act 8:15 Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:

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Act 8:17 Then laid they [their] hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.

Act 9:17 And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house; and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, [even] Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost.

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Act 9:31 Then had the churches rest throughout all Judaea and Galilee and Samaria, and were edified; and walking in the fear of the Lord, and in the comfort of the Holy Ghost, were multiplied.

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Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

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Act 10:44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.

Act 10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Act 19:6 And when Paul had laid [his] hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

Act 20:23 Save that the Holy Ghost witnesseth in every city, saying that bonds and afflictions abide me.

AS U CAN SEE THE HOLY SPIRIT GIVES US THE POWER OF THE LORD GOD IN OUR LIVES SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THE BOLDNESS OF PETER. TOWITNESS AND THE KNOWLEDGE AND WISDOM OF THE LORD WHEN WE NEED IT....

THE GIFGT OS THE HOLY GHOST ARE LISTED BELOW

1Cr 12:27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.

1Cr 12:28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

1Cr 12:29 [Are] all apostles? [are] all prophets? [are] all teachers? [are] all workers of miracles?

1Cr 12:30 Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?

1Cr 12:31 But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.

ALL OF THESE GIFTS WERE PRESENT IN THE OLD TESTAMENT BUT TONGUES AND INTERPRETATION

NOW according to verses 29 30 we not all have all of the gifts.... so I will not actually comment on how we know we have the HOLY SPIRT

but i do...... I do believe that the LORD gave me it that night that i was saved even though at the time i didnot know what he had actually done for me...... however i never felt anything so wonderful

and such a desire to serve the LORD.......

I READ through the NEW TESTAMENT that first week

GLORY BE TO JESUS CHRIST WHO SAVED ME.

Now I PRAY THAT THESE HELPED YOU MAKE YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS

MY WIFE WHO IS FULL OF THE HOLY GHOST BUT DOES NOT SPEAK NOT SPEAK IN TONGUES..... HOWEVER I DO

MAY THE LORD BLESS YOU HAVE A GOOD EVENING

[Guest tiggr]

Holy Ghost, Holy Spirit same thing ghost is an old english word for spirit.

First lets look at what the Old Testament says about it because that is where it is first spoken of.

Isa 32:15

15 Until the spirit be poured upon us from on high, and the wilderness be a fruitful field, and the fruitful field be counted for a forest.

Isa 44:3

3 For I will pour water upon him that is thirsty, and floods upon the dry ground: I will pour my spirit upon thy seed, and my blessing upon thine offspring:

Ezek 36:27

27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

Ezek 39:29

29 Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord GOD.

Joel 2:28-29

28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:

29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.

Zech 12:10

10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Now look at the following scriptures

Acts 2:38

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 5:32

32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him

Acts 8:14-17

14 Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:

15 Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:

16(For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)

17 Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.

Acts 10:44-47

44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.

45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.

46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,

47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?

Acts 19:2-6

2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.

3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.

4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

When you read these scriptures first we see that recieving the Holy Ghost was not something that automatically happened when one repented. Just because i have believed does not mean that i have also recieved the Holy Ghost too. We see that the baptism of the Holy Ghost was something that happened seperately,after one had repented and it happened sometimes before and sometimes after they had been baptized.

Tiggr

[The Journey]

Tiggr,

E4S, makes a great point!

There is no such thing as the Holy Ghost.

The Greek reads pneuma which should be translated Spirit and not "Ghost"

- Steve

[jesusislord]

From what i see in the word and my experience..... water baptism has nothing to do with the HOLY SPIRIT BAPTISM..

water baptism is a result of salvation.

but i have seen some saved and filled with the HOLY SPIRIT RIGHT THAN.

SOMETIMES WITH SPEAKING IN TONGUES.. SOMETIMES NOT.

It is according to GOD'S PURPOSE AND GLORY ]

The main thing is it happens today just like it did in the book of ACTS

And we as believers need to seek all that the LORD HAS FOR US.

DONT YOU THINK

WHAT A WONDERFUL GIFT THE HOLY SPIRIT IN MY LIFE IS.

MAY THE LORD GOD BLESS YOU AMEN

[JesusisGod2]

Holy Ghost, Holy Spirit same thing ghost is an old english word for spirit.

First lets look at what the Old Testament says about it because that is where it is first spoken of.

Isa 32:15

15 Until the spirit be poured upon us from on high, and the wilderness be a fruitful field, and the fruitful field be counted for a forest.

Isa 44:3

3 For I will pour water upon him that is thirsty, and floods upon the dry ground: I will pour my spirit upon thy seed, and my blessing upon thine offspring:

Ezek 36:27

27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

Ezek 39:29

29 Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord GOD.

Joel 2:28-29

28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:

29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.

Zech 12:10

10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Now look at the following scriptures

Acts 2:38

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 5:32

32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him

Acts 8:14-17

14 Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:

15 Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:

16(For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)

17 Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.

Acts 10:44-47

44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.

45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.

46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,

47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?

Acts 19:2-6

2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.

3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.

4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

When you read these scriptures first we see that recieving the Holy Ghost was not something that automatically happened when one repented. Just because i have believed does not mean that i have also recieved the Holy Ghost too. We see that the baptism of the Holy Ghost was something that happened seperately,after one had repented and it happened sometimes before and sometimes after they had been baptized.

Tiggr

Hey Tiggr,

Thats some pretty good stuff there, but let me throw a wrench in this as well

In Acts 10:44-48 there is not even any mention of repentance when the Holy Spirit fell on them.

After recieving the Holy Spirit, then they were given the Baptism of repentance

This is a really beautiful scenario, and a fulfillment of what Paul speaks about in Romans 9:15-16

"For He saith unto Moses, I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.

So then, it is not on him who that willeth, nor on Him that runneth, but of God that showeth mercy"

Oh merciful God we thank Thee for so wonderful a salvation and for seeking us to be a part of Your wonderful kingdom, through the blood and Name of Jesus we pray.

God bless Tiggr, good stuff you posted, I just thought I would share this as well, for it shows Gods mercy to an undeserving people, and His election and choice.

In Jesus

Kevin

[The Journey]

Holy Ghost, Holy Spirit same thing ghost is an old english word for spirit.

No, ghost is not an old english word for spirit. The word ghost was a bad translation choice by the KJV translation team.

- Steve

[endure4salvation]

Holy Ghost, Holy Spirit same thing ghost is an old english word for spirit.

No, ghost is not an old english word for spirit. The word ghost was a bad translation choice by the KJV translation team.

- Steve

The ONLY place I am aware of that the word 'ghost' should be used in the NT is where Jesus was walking on water during a storm towards the disciples and they thought that they were seeing a "GHOST." This is just one of many errors in the KJV (translation) of the Bible. (ever seen a unicorn?)

[Anonymous]

OT (KJV)

Psalm 51:11 ~ Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me.

NT (KJV)

Matthew 3:11 ~ I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:

Hmm.... Holy Spirit and Holy Ghost not one in the same???