US will have to fight dirty in new wars

[Sweet Servent]

your ARTICLES do not answer my request. here let me spell it out for you.

show me a source (a link will do) to where the U.S. ADMITTED TO TORTURE. that was your accusation. then you elaborated on that saying that the torture included pulling out fingernails and such.

and then show me a source that cites that legally obtained guns from WALMART are responsible in any way shape or form for the crime rate.

until you respond to those, i'm not interested in any articles you throw out here to try to confuse, confound, or distract from the issue.

for the sake of your OWN credibility, please show evidence to back up the claims you made.

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Here is this what you wanted?

The plaintiffs sued Wal-Mart for negligently selling a shotgun to James Michael White -- Ms. White's estranged husband -- who was under a domestic violence restraining order and was therefore prohibited from buying a firearm under federal law. On April 8, 1998, within two weeks of buying the shotgun, Mr. White used it to murder his estranged wife and her brother. Wal-Mart sold Mr. White the gun despite the fact that he filled out the federal purchase form truthfully, indicating that he was "subject to a court order restraining [him] from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner." As a result, federal law prohibited Mr. White from buying the gun. Nonetheless, after a Wal-Mart clerk and supervisor reviewed and signed the form, Mr. White was sold the murder weapon. Because of similar oversights, Wal-Mart has been sued repeatedly for negligent firearm sales, failure to properly train its gun sales staff, and negligent supervision.

I asked you for an example of where someone purchased a gun lawfully from a Wal-Mart store and killed someone. You gave an example of someone purchasing a gun in violation of the law. My point is that criminals will find a way to buy guns, regardless of the law.

LadyC are you for real? This person went in and purchased a gun at Walmart and killed two people. Did you read any of the stuff I sent you on guns?

[Marnie]

Sweet Servant, your lunatic philosophy cost over 100,000,000 lives in the last century alone. Are you prepared to assert that it is compatible with the 'good news'?

You have bought into the big lies of the Marxist, America-hating press. I assure you this IS demonic influence. You need to repent and ask God to free your mind from every vestige of Dialectical Materialism, and you will then be free of being led astray by the enimies of righteousness.

Right here I was called a lunatic...

you're TWISTING again. the accusation you made was at butero. leanord's post was made AFTER you made the accusation.

show me proof that butero called you a fringe lunatic, or even implied such.

I am talking about getting label by fellow christians here, I have been called a liberal, lunatic and few others I'd have to search for. Would you like me to, I can.

Welcome to the club! How about Satanist, hedonist, pagan....gosh, I have been called too many to remember. Never lunatic, though. Wonder why?

[Guest LadyC]

marnie ROFL, whoever called you a satanist is a lunatic!

[Marnie]

Just for the record, as of this point, I do not consider Sweet Servant a lunatic, but I do believe her to be a liberal.

Yes, but am I lunatic?

I think this thread is tad off topic!

[Marnie]

marnie ROFL, whoever called you a satanist is a lunatic!

LOL it's true, Lady C. I am sure it was a fit of rage though. The person in question and I have reconciled and are now infamous sparring partners...one of my favorite posters here as a matter of fact. (I hope the individual read that!)

[Guest LadyC]

vex, "they" are enemies who engage in what used to be called guerilla warfare... they dress as civilians to disguise their intent. it's referring to enemy combatants who do not play by the rules of war. our government does not stereotype all brown skinned arabs as bad guys. please don't start making blanket accusations with no evidence to support it, or we may have to call you to task to prove your statements as well.

furthermore, nothing was said in what you quoted that defined harsh interrogation as torture. harsh interrogation methods do not violate the geneva convention. please back up your accusations. particularly when you are accusing members of this board as supporters of torture.

[Sweet Servent]

Just for the record, as of this point, I do not consider Sweet Servant a lunatic, but I do believe her to be a liberal.

no, you haven't.

and i'm still waiting for you to show proof of where butero ever called you a fringe lunatic as you accused him of doing. When I said YOU I was referring to those of you who will tolerate dissention against the war. I am sorry I should have mad myself clearer. Leonard called me a lunatic and referred to post where called people like me who disagree with him as fringe lunatic's but I already posted that.

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[Openly Curious]

The truth is, you like to agrue and you find this fun and exciting. I don't like to argue, so there is no point.

As you might have guessed, since I like to argue and find it fun and exciting, I have argued with a lot of people. I have found you one of the most argumentative I have ever come across, so I know how hard it must be making yourself continue to post since you don't like to argue.

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[Guest LadyC]

Just for the record, as of this point, I do not consider Sweet Servant a lunatic, but I do believe her to be a liberal.

no, you haven't.

and i'm still waiting for you to show proof of where butero ever called you a fringe lunatic as you accused him of doing. When I said YOU I was referring to those of you who will tolerate dissention against the war. I am sorry I should have mad myself clearer. Leonard called me a lunatic and referred to post where called people like me who disagree with him as fringe lunatic's but I already posted that.

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[Guest LadyC]

sorry, disingenuous isn't the correct word.

by the way, you are also now accusing me of being an extremist, which is patently false.

you are a decietful person. there, i said it. i have now made my first formal accusation against you. and i can prove it by your own words.