Forgiveness

[Arthur Durnan]

Pray tell, how many of our sins were in the future when Jesus died? Excellent query.

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[EricH]

But even still so what if you do sin and you know you have been saved, (And no man can say otherwise because only God can judge the heart) but never repent. Does that mean you are still going to heaven.

Like have said I do not believe in once saved always saved because we still have free will.

So, if you believe in free will, would you say that if a person was saved, then lost it, they could get it back again?

[allmylove4ugrowsdeeper]

Rev 2:12 "To the angel of the church in Pergamum write: "This is the message from the one who has the sharp two-edged sword.

Rev 2:13 I know where you live, there where Satan has his throne. You are true to me, and you did not abandon your faith in me even during the time when Antipas, my faithful witness, was killed there where Satan lives.

Rev 2:14 But there are a few things I have against you: there are some among you who follow the teaching of Balaam, who taught Balak how to lead the people of Israel into sin by persuading them to eat food that had been offered to idols and to practice sexual immorality.

Rev 2:15 In the same way you have people among you who follow the teaching of the Nicolaitans.

Rev 2:16 Now turn from your sins! If you don't, I will come to you soon and fight against those people with the sword that comes out of my mouth.

Rev 2:17 "If you have ears, then, listen to what the Spirit says to the churches! "To those who win the victory I will give some of the hidden manna. I will also give each of them a white stone on which is written a new name that no one knows except the one who receives it.

Repentance is key.

In the seven letters to the churches there is a definate theme... Repentant.

[Guest nicholus]

Eric

Depends on what you mean by lost it. Their are people who argue that you can throw your salvation away and that you can never have it back.

I don't believe that because I myself, not in word but in deed, have walked away from God and frogotten all about him before. I am not proud to tell you that but recently I started to give my life back to him. So yes I belive that he will take you back because no matter what you are his child.

[larryt]

Eric

Depends on what you mean by lost it. Their are people who argue that you can throw your salvation away and that you can never have it back.

I don't believe that because I myself, not in word but in deed, have walked away from God and frogotten all about him before. I am not proud to tell you that but recently I started to give my life back to him. So yes I belive that he will take you back because no matter what you are his child.

Hi nicholus,

Lots of people believe things that are wrong. The bottom line is what do the scriptures say. Some things to ponder about lose of salvation.

Heb 6:4 For [it is] impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,

:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put [him] to an open shame.

Did you ever stop being His child?

LT

[Openly Curious]

Eric

Depends on what you mean by lost it. Their are people who argue that you can throw your salvation away and that you can never have it back.

I don't believe that because I myself, not in word but in deed, have walked away from God and frogotten all about him before. I am not proud to tell you that but recently I started to give my life back to him. So yes I belive that he will take you back because no matter what you are his child.

you also have your free will until the day you die as long as their is breath in the body their is hope for a sinner to turn from the error of his ways. Even in times of disobedience it takes and act of our wills to accept the chastisment of the Lord who loves us and repent and turn from our ways back to God.

for the word says that He is married to the backslider meaning one is still in relationship with God even when they go astray is the way I take that to mean. but He also said that he would heal our backslidings and I take that to mean that the sins that lead one astray in their relationship with God that he will take them away when one repents and accepts the chastisement of the Lord. when one does stray for He is faithful and just to forgive them their sins and to cleanse them of all unrighteousness thus healing ones backsliding.

I don't see that one looses salvation as much as I see one only err's from it.

OC