Fulfilled Prophecies from Isaiah

[Hypathia]

2 Peter 1:19-21...

And we have the word of the prophets made more certain, and you will do well to pay attention to it, as to a light shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts. Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation. For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.

As the prophets never interpreted their prophecies with their own minds---neither should we engage in any freelance interpretation either. The Holy Spirit is our interpreter. Tune into Him.

Really; then why isn't everyone Catholic? And how on earth can anyone believe in this rapture nonsense (a product of the 1800s)? There are thousands upon thousands of Christian denominations alone; a lot of freelance interpretation going on there I'd say.

Proverbs 14:15 The simple believes everything, but the prudent looks where he is going.

1 Thessalonians 5:21 but test everything; hold fast what is good,

I do my best to hold fast to what is good; guess I'm just a do-gooder at heart. -- Nothing wrong with prophesy but just make sure it's really a prophesy to begin with.

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[Jesus Admirer]

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[Hypathia]

My comprehension level is just fine; thanks. ---- I'm taking it ALL in and evaluating it. Everybody picks and chooses which scriptures they believe more than other scriptures. It's inevitable because we have some contradictions; some errors; and over 2000 years separating us culturally and linguistically from the authors.

I've never met a virgin yet whose had a baby; and that belief is NOT a requirment for going to heaven.

You make a nasty implication by mentioning my comprehension level and politely invite me to a nonbiased study??? I see exactly where you're coming from and it is not about having a polite, unbiased study. I've spent too much time on here already; I told you I'd print off your chapter but I haven't had a chance yet. I'm also trying to finish up that book I mentioned called "Meeting Jesus Again For The First Time" so I can return it to the 87 yr old man who lent it to me. I also have family; they all went to Wal-Mart today while I wasted my time away on here. I need to spend a little time with them too; do you comprehend; does this compute???

You know what; I just changed my mind. I'm not gonna print your chapter; peddle it to somebody else who doesn't comprehend quite as much as I do.

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[Floatingaxe]

My comprehension level is just fine; thanks. ---- I'm taking it ALL in and evaluating it. Everybody picks and chooses which scriptures they believe more than other scriptures. It's inevitable because we have some contradictions; some errors; and over 2000 years separating us culturally and linguistically from the authors.

I've never met a virgin yet whose had a baby; and that belief is NOT a requirment for going to heaven.

You make a nasty implication by mentioning my comprehension level and politely invite me to a nonbiased study??? I see exactly where you're coming from and it is not about having a polite, unbiased study. I've spent too much time on here already; I told you I'd print off your chapter but I haven't had a chance yet. I'm also trying to finish up that book I mentioned called "Meeting Jesus Again For The First Time" so I can return it to the 87 yr old man who lent it to me. I also have family; they all went to Wal-Mart today while I wasted my time away on here. I need to spend a little time with them too; do you comprehend; does this compute???

You know what; I just changed my mind. I'm not gonna print your chapter; peddle it to somebody else who doesn't comprehend quite as much as I do.

Lovely attitude.

[Guest shiloh357]

I've never met a virgin yet whose had a baby; and that belief is NOT a requirment for going to heaven.

The virgin birth strikes at the heart of the doctrine of Christ Divinity. If Jesus was just a man, then we have no guarantee that he was sinless. If He was not sinless, then He was not the spotless Lamb of God, and was not able to die for the sins of mankind.

The virgin birth teaches us that Jesus was born of God, not of Joseph. It was God who went to the cross. Jesus as God died on the cross. If you reject the fact that Jesus birth was purely the product of the Holy Spirit over shadowing Mary, and if you reject the clear statement from the Bible, that Mary had not known a man prior to giving birth to Jesus, what other parts of the Bible do you also find it OK, to reject?

A true Christian must believe that Jesus was born of virgin by the power of God in order to believe that Jesus was both 100% man and 100% God. There are simply somethings about the Christian faith that cannot be compromised upon. If you reject this basic premise of Scripture, you are not a Christian. No one who rejects Jesus' Divinity is a Chrisitan. True Christianity is based upon this truth. The very plan of redemption is meaningless and impossible without it.

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[Hypathia]

Hey guys, I read this post on another thread and it made me think of you. [link]

[Floatingaxe]

Hey guys, I read this post on another thread and it made me think of you. [link]

Lovely attitude II.

[cjrose]

Hey guys, I read this post on another thread and it made me think of you. [link]

And I ask what does that prove? Only that you need back up or can't use your own words? Wait... so far your own words have been backwards, disrespectful, inaccurate, just plain backwards thinking.

You are decieved, obviously confused, and as undone said, we are constantly having to defend our faith, which God commands us to do so, therefore as human beings, we can get touchy as well. My brothers and sisters here have given you quite a perspective and the words to take heed to that Gods Word is Truth!

Of all the posts so far I've encountered by unbelievers like you Hypathia is that Joseph is Jesus father from his own seed is the whackiest notion!

I also have to wonder why you choose your user name because the definition is basically Secular. So this doesn't suprise me that you or of a "liberal flavor", pick and choose what YOU want to believe in the Bible, have these absolutely distorted views of Christians, how you can claim to be one and go against God's Word is baffling.

We have attempted to reach out to you and yet your heart is hard and closed to the fact that there is another way of seeing the Lord. The way He wants you to see Him.

It's a thing called simple TRUST, complete TRUST, in Him, in His Word, in His promise and assurance. There is nothing wrong with not understanding some things in the bible. They are not meant for us to understand. Did you ever think that God placed these mysteries there so that we might grow in our faith by believing in our TRUST that one day all these things will be revealed.

You continue to attempt to back up your ideas just as we may continue to attempt to help you see the light and the truth. But the Truth is righ there in the Bible and without the Holy Spirit to give you the wisdom to know the Truth, you walk in darkness.