What makes an atheist so scary

[Floatingaxe]

That is untrue, runner's high. Morality was set in by God. there is no other morality than the morality that God gives us inherently. Before the Law, He set in us a conscience. It is all God-given and there is no other code in existence. It's not arrogance--it's the truth.

Whether or not conscience is God-given, it serves as a basis for moral systems other than the Christian one. Yes, other moral systems.

I have no hard time understanding how others apart from Christ feel differently than I do!

Exactly. You are truly unable to view things from other peoples' perspectives. This is called "narrow-mindedness." And it explains why you have so much trouble acknowledging the other religions and moral systems out there.

You admit that you have trouble understanding others' perspectives, yet you claim to speak for others. You speak as though you know the truth. You are not God; you can't know the truth. You can only believe. Don't pretend to be God; speak from your own experience and speak only for yourself.

READ AGAIN! I have NO hard time, because I was once a sinner. No one is born knowing God.

Duh, man!

In addition to your judgmental outburst---I can and do know Truth. It is knowable! I do speak from my own experience, which is the joy of knowing the truth in Jesus Christ. You right: I am not God, but I am His kid, and I know Him!

[Floatingaxe]

You are what makes a Christian so scary.

You think the truth can be known. And you think you know it!

Yes, there is such a thing as absolute truth and it is knowable. Too bad you don't know that.

1 John 2: 20-23

But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you know all things. I have not written to you because you do not know the truth, but because you know it, and that no lie is of the truth.

Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son. Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

Do not be afraid of Christians, dear. Fear God.

[Floatingaxe]

Human beings can experience absolute truth, because we were created to know it! We have flaws because of the Fall of Man, and are sinful and decrepit, but we have a void in us that can only be filled by God Himself. He is the One who provided the way to know Him. He is the One who can fill that void. He is the One who has done all the work to reach out to us and reconcile us to Himself. We are lost and hopeless and poor people without Him, but with Him, we are complete: found, rich and with all hope!

How can that be scary?

[Leonard]

You are what makes a Christian so scary.

You think the truth can be known. And you think you know it!

If truth cannot be known, why are you talking to us?

[Floatingaxe]

You use the Bible, "God's word", as evidence of the truth of God. And you use God's word as evidence of the truth of the Bible.

In case your are a visual learner, like I am, I drew a picture for you: http://aycu40.webshots.com/image/4639/2004...92648041_rs.jpg

According to you, God exists because God says he does. What's scary is that you see nothing circular about this.

Hahah! You like cartoons, eh? The proof is in Jesus Christ. You meet Him, and you will never doubt again.

[Leonard]

Morality has existed long before religion. And it exists within every religion, Christian or not. Your moral law is certainly not the only one. Such arrogance!

Two points, dear fellow. Was there morality before there were humans? Almost by definition, one would have to say not (unless one believes in God, who was by definition 'moral' from before creation). And it appears that from the very dawn of man, he was always religious. So it seems quite impossible to aver that morality existed before religion, unless you think of morality as 'eternal principles' not dependent on human existence, which would open quite a can of worms for you, given your philosophical imperatives!

Second point, Christianity certainly does not aver that it is the sole bearer of moral truths. We DO aver that Christianity bears ALL moral truth, but certainly we agree, and applaud moral excellence wherever we find it.

[undone]

I think a lot of athiests aren't scary....just scared. Scared of accountibility to God.

Their answer....stick your head in the sand and say to yourself, there is no god there is no god there is no god. Believer, what did you say?....NO!...there is no god there is no god.....

[Floatingaxe]

Undone, your take on atheists is flawed because it assumes all atheists are secretly theists on some level. This is untrue. Most atheists genuinely disbelieve in God. They do not fear something they disbelieve in.

Do you fear Allah? Zeus? Probably not. This is exactly how atheists feel about your God.

The truth is that "OUR God" is the only exisiting, living God. Allah and the others are figments of people's imaginations---or very real demons.

[Leonard]

How do you define morality? Can a simple feeling of compassion constitute morality?

No. Compassion can be moral or immoral. I have no compassion for say, the impending execution of Saddam Hussein.

Where do you draw the line between superstition and religion?

Is there one? If so it is pretty fuzzy. Although I suppose the superstition about walking under a ladder would be sub-religious........

That is good to hear. Unfortunately many of your colleagues on these forums disagree.

Unfortunately not all Christians are right about everything. When they are, they agree with me.

[Floatingaxe]

Funny comment, Leonard!

Bottom line is: Atheists are not scary, but they do make me sad, as God's signature is everywhere and they refuse to read it.