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Clinton was certainly not a liberal.

Clinton was not a liberal????!!!! That's the funniest joke I've heard in a long time!!

The problem is that you are so far to the right that you think the center is much closer to you than it is. There is hardly a dimes worth of difference ideologically between Clinton and Bush Sr. Look at policies, almost a mirror image of each other. Guys like Dennis Kucinich and Bernie Sanders are solid Liberals and Clinton is a mile to the right of them. Clinton had the highest approval ratings of any President since FDR. He consistently had the highest approval ratings of any President since FDR. If Clinton was a liberal, then 70% of the country must be. He was over 60% even at the height of the Lewinsky Scandal. You would be hard pressed to find a politician that represented the mainstream more than Clinton did. In fact, I will go so far as to say that if you let the American people trade Clinton for Bush today, that at least 2/3rds of the American would take Clinton back in a heartbeat.

Bush Sr. was forced to go back on his word and raise taxes because of the Democrat congress, and Clinton was forced to do the good things he did by the Republican congress that twisted his arm. He sure never came up with any good conservative idea on his own. Mr. middle-class-tax-cut-just-kidding before he was even inaugurated-I'm-going-to-give-you-a-huge-tax-increase-instead. (I posted this somewhere else on this board a while back.) Like he ever intended to give anyone a tax cut! He thought we were stupid, but I saw thru him from the start. That's what turned me into a PJ (political junkie). I never cared about politics before.

He thought he was doing a good job of faking being mainstream, and some people fell for it. I didn't. I'm not so sure he had the highest approval ratings. I guess it depends on what poll you are looking at.


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Clinton was certainly not a liberal.

Clinton was not a liberal????!!!! That's the funniest joke I've heard in a long time!!

The problem is that you are so far to the right that you think the center is much closer to you than it is. There is hardly a dimes worth of difference ideologically between Clinton and Bush Sr. Look at policies, almost a mirror image of each other. Guys like Dennis Kucinich and Bernie Sanders are solid Liberals and Clinton is a mile to the right of them. Clinton had the highest approval ratings of any President since FDR. He consistently had the highest approval ratings of any President since FDR. If Clinton was a liberal, then 70% of the country must be. He was over 60% even at the height of the Lewinsky Scandal. You would be hard pressed to find a politician that represented the mainstream more than Clinton did. In fact, I will go so far as to say that if you let the American people trade Clinton for Bush today, that at least 2/3rds of the American would take Clinton back in a heartbeat.

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One of the reasons Clinton looked so mainstream is because you would be hard pressed to find a President who put his finger into the air to test the political impact of his ideas more than he did. He was truly "all things to all people".

That's great if you are looking for hand outs and wanting someone to never make a decision on his own, but it's not so hot if you are expecting solid leadership from the top office in the country. He didn't take a stand on anything until he was fully briefed on what he thought the polls showed would be the coolest position that people would like.

And yes, Clinton and Bush Sr agree on quite a bit: they are both globalists. :wub:

What does that prove?

t.

The Bush Administration does more polling that even the Clinton Administration did.


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Maybe so, but it seems they hardly ever side with where the results are pointing. :39:

If they did, they would have higher favorable numbers, one would think.

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Well I think it's plain to see that the Democrats are against our system of capitalism.

As it stands, the wealthiest 8-10% of our population pay up to 70% of all taxes. They also happen to provide millions of jobs to both the middle and lower classes.

Don't be to sure that all of don't get hit. The Democrats are notorious for their tax and spend policy


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Great!

I see nothing but promise in a proposal to raise taxes for the wealthy. It is those with the most who should be expected to contribute the most to the country. I have never understood those who would try to give even more to the rich while completely ignoring the poor. To me that's just plain immoral. Good, hardworking people who make very small amounts of money should be getting the incentives and breaks, not those who have tons of money. Yay dems for that one. :thumbsup:


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With a flat tax, the rich would pay the most, and everyone would be taxed fairly.


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Coffee, do you consider an income of less than 14,000 dollars a year wealthy? Because the last time Dems said they wanted a tax increase for only the most wealthy, people making that amount of money were some of the people whose taxes were raised.


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A flat rate would put the tax asisstance companies like h&R out of business. It would be too simple. The same reason oil will stay over alternative measures because there are too many wealthy oil investors that would bankrupt.


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Well, some small businesses may have to go out of business because of this, too. Since when dooes the government care, unless it's them?

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