Trinity

[firehill]

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

He was in the beginning with God.

[Fiosh]

Matt 3: 16-17

After Jesus was baptized, he came up from the water and behold, the heavens were opened (for him), and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove (and) coming upon him.

And a voice came from the heavens, saying, "This is my beloved Son, 13 with whom I am well pleased."

Is this supposed to depict a triune god? Which one is the God and father of all, in all and through all?

Each Person of the Trinity is fully God. They are One.

What do you believe, Quick?

Is Jesus God? Is the Holy Spirit God?

Peace,

Fiosh

I think I asked you a question first that you neglected to answer. Which one of your gods in the baptism proof scene of trinity is the one God and father of all, in all and through all?

I did answer it, Quick. They are One.

John 1:1-3 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God,

and the Word was God.

He was in the beginning with God.

All things came to be through him, and without him nothing came to be.

Your turn.

[Floatingaxe]

Which one of your gods

This made me perk up!

Do you know Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour, Quick?

John 8:56-58...

Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad."

Then the Jews said to Him, "You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?"

Jesus said to them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM."

Abraham and Jesus are pals!

[Floatingaxe]

Matt 3: 16-17

After Jesus was baptized, he came up from the water and behold, the heavens were opened (for him), and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove (and) coming upon him.

And a voice came from the heavens, saying, "This is my beloved Son, 13 with whom I am well pleased."

Is this supposed to depict a triune god? Which one is the God and father of all, in all and through all?

Each Person of the Trinity is fully God. They are One.

What do you believe, Quick?

Is Jesus God? Is the Holy Spirit God?

Peace,

Fiosh

I think I asked you a question first that you neglected to answer. Which one of your gods in the baptism proof scene of trinity is the one God and father of all, in all and through all?

I did answer it, Quick. They are One.

John 1:1-3 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God,

and the Word was God.

He was in the beginning with God.

All things came to be through him, and without him nothing came to be.

Your turn.

Now, three entities were present on the bank scene. Are you saying all three, THEY, were the one God and the father of all, in all and through all?

Three entities on what bank???

[Fiosh]

Matt 3: 16-17

After Jesus was baptized, he came up from the water and behold, the heavens were opened (for him), and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove (and) coming upon him.

And a voice came from the heavens, saying, "This is my beloved Son, 13 with whom I am well pleased."

Is this supposed to depict a triune god? Which one is the God and father of all, in all and through all?

Each Person of the Trinity is fully God. They are One.

What do you believe, Quick?

Is Jesus God? Is the Holy Spirit God?

Peace,

Fiosh

I think I asked you a question first that you neglected to answer. Which one of your gods in the baptism proof scene of trinity is the one God and father of all, in all and through all?

I did answer it, Quick. They are One.

John 1:1-3 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God,

and the Word was God.

He was in the beginning with God.

All things came to be through him, and without him nothing came to be.

Your turn.

Now, three entities were present on the bank scene. Are you saying all three, THEY, were the one God and the father of all, in all and through all?

I'm not even pretending to be able to explain the Trinity. Great saints have written volumes and haven't been able to completely encompass the awesome nature of God.

What I am saying, is that there is One God in three Persons. God the Father is God; God the Son is God; God the Holy Spirit is God.

Each is fully God; yet they are One. They share one nature and are of the same essence. Each is distinct from the other, yet there is no opposition.

"The Father is wholly in the Son and wholly in the Holy Spirit; the Son is wholly in the Father and wholly in the Holy Spirit; the Holy Spirit is wholly in the Father and wholly in the Son." CCC#255

St Gregory of Nazianzus writes:

"...Divinity without disparity of substance or nature, without superior degree that raises up or inferior degree that casts down. . . the infinite co-naturality of three infinites. Each person considered in himself is entirely God. . . the three considered together. . . I have not even begun to think of unity when the Trinity bathes me in its splendor. I have not even begun to think of the Trinity when unity grasps me. . "

Our God truly is an awesome God!

Your turn. You are an atheist, aren't you, Quick?

Peace,

Fiosh

[Fiosh]

You are right. I cannot totally separate the Persons of the Trinity as you are asking me to do.

What do you believe, Quick, and why?

[Floatingaxe]

I just do not believe that God became a man. And I note that you cannot determine which of your three gods is the one God and father of all.

You need Jesus! You need to put your trust in Him and what God has said about Him.

There are not three gods, but One God only, who is manifested in the man, Jesus the Christ, and His Spirit, and the wonderful Father.

Come to Jesus today and accept the Father's plan for your salvation!

[Floatingaxe]

I just do not believe that God became a man. And I note that you cannot determine which of your three gods is the one God and father of all.

You need Jesus! You need to put your trust in Him and what God has said about Him.

There are not three gods, but One God only, who is manifested in the man, Jesus the Christ, and His Spirit, and the wonderful Father.

Come to Jesus today and accept the Father's plan for your salvation!

Woops. Too many people that are gods in your statement. I do put my trust in Jesus and I do believe what God said about HIM. Until you can differentiate betwixt the three gods you profess, I can

[Iryssa]

You are right. I cannot totally separate the Persons of the Trinity as you are asking me to do.

What do you believe, Quick, and why?

I believe that you cannot justify the persons (gods) of your trinity as the one God and father of all, that is in all and through all. You have three persons (gods) at the baptism scene in fixed locations that are not in all and through all - nor are they ONE.

That's true if you limit God to human abilities. God is not ruled by our ideas of space and time, though.

[Fiosh]

You are right. I cannot totally separate the Persons of the Trinity as you are asking me to do.

What do you believe, Quick, and why?

I believe that you cannot justify the persons (gods) of your trinity as the one God and father of all, that is in all and through all. You have three persons (gods) at the baptism scene in fixed locations that are not in all and through all - nor are they ONE.

I've done all I can to answer your questions, Quick. I was honest and sincere in my dealings with you. You continue to try to be elusive and clever (as you see it).

It's between you and God now, Quick.

It's clear that you are not a Chrisitan; and you won't be honest about what you believe. You contradict yourself when you states your beliefs. So there is no point in further discussion. I don't like dishonesty.

I hope some day you come to the Truth that is Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior.

Peace,

Fiosh