Trinity

[Fiosh]

Hey Quick, how do you interpret Colossians 2:9

or how about

Colossians 1: 15-20

[Fiosh]

.............or whadaya make of

John 8:58-59

Jesus musta lost his head there or somethin', huh?

He was before Abraham????

Gee, they musta thought that when Jesus called Himself "I Am" that He was saying He is God, 'cause they tried to stone Him.

[Fiosh]

What do you make of John 1, Quick?

Does this prove trinity? NO.

I do have an answer if you want to hear it.

Sure, why not. I've decided to show you a little grace. I think the Holy Spirit is guiding me.

[Floatingaxe]

.............or whadaya make of

John 8:58-59

Jesus musta lost his head there or somethin', huh?

He was before Abraham????

Gee, they musta thought that when Jesus called Himself "I Am" that He was saying He is God, 'cause they tried to stone Him.

Amen!

[Fiosh]

But, hey, let's start at the beginning

Matthew 2: 10

Remember the 3 Wise Men

" ...and going into the house they saw the Child with Mary his mother, and they fell down and worshipped him.

Whoa...........that would be heresy to worship someone other than God! They are heretics! Unless.................hang on a minute............unless Jesus is God!

[apothanein kerdos]

John 1

Problem solved.

[Fiosh]

We are in agreement, Quick, that we are to worship God alone, right?

Take a look at Matthew 14: 33

Remember when Jesus walked on water?

"...And those in the boat worshipped him, saying, "Truly you are the Son of God".

I really don't think the Apostles were heretics, so that can only mean............................

[Fiosh]

Then there is Matthew 28: 17

Just before Jesus ascends into heaven

" ...Now the 11 disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain to which Jesus had directed them. And when they saw him they worshipped him; but some doubted".

Many still worship Him. Some still doubt, Quick.

[Fiosh]

Funny thing is even demons recognize Jesus.

Mark 5:6

Remember the demon-possessed man who lived among the tombs?

"...he was always crying out, and bruising himself with stones. And when he saw Jesus from afar, he ran and worshipped him; and crying out in a loud voice, he said, "What have you to do with me,Jesus, Son of the Most High God?"

[Fiosh]

Quick,

Do you believe that the Bible is the inspired word of God?

Don't get mad at my answer.

Which bible?

I've been asked this a lot. Look, I believe the bible is a record and guide for us to know God. None are perfect. Once we know God, he helps us through the imperfections of the numerous writings declared as "his inspired word". The only written word of God is the Ten Commandments that he wrote in stone. The only inspired writings are those of prophecy and of the creation. The rest are writings of those like you and me who put into words, to the best of their ability, what they understood.

No, the bible, whichever one you choose, is not inerrant or totally inspired.

Then why the heck are you debating this issue at all? By your own standards, there's no reason to believe that Jesus is Lord, because it's the New Testament that reveals Him as such.

But I do believe he is Lord, I do not believe that he is God. There is a difference.

Why do you believe Jesus is Lord?

Maybe because God made him Lord over us, Lord and master. How about judge? Didn't God make hin our judge as well?

I guess my question wasn't clear.

WHY do you believe it? i.e. on what do you base your belief????