Should I be obeying the OT Laws?

[Floatingaxe]

Satan loves discord and differences. Hates unity. Anytime he can impress upon the human mind that anything of works is beneficial to achieve joy, he is very happy.

okay then the subject of tithes was brought up and tithes is a "Work" even though it was before the law was given in which was looking forward to the offering up of Christ body on the cross. Now I have to say from what you have said here that you are sowing discord as you are uplifting tithing so if what you are saying is true you are just as guilty discord and differences as others do not feel they have to pay tithes.

I have actually thought this thread was pretty friendly and have been able to converse and share my thoughts and opinions in my beliefs. I would hope we all could do this. I don't personally believe either side of the issue is sowing discord by sharing what they believe about the OP. There is always going to be differences of doctrine but our unity is in our faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.

thanks for your reply

OC

I never brought it up! I have never insisted that people adopt tithing...it is simply giving to God,sowing into the Kingdom, out of a heart of love, not duty, and not for recompense. I sense discord in your post addressing me, though...

I like the way you play tricks with the editing button so I'll respond to the things you've added here after replying before.

No matter how you want to slice your pie up into little bitty pieces tithing is a "work" one does out of faith it does not matter if you do it with a heart of love and generosity or grudgingly and sparingly and whether you give to get or want nothing in return the fact is that it still remains a faith based "work" that you practice while others don't believe they should tithe.

There is no discord in me addressing you as we are actually on the topic of this thread in our discussion. I am just trying to make a valid point to you in what you have said.

OC

No tricks, just slow down bit.

Tithing is not any "work" in the sense of works! Neither is partaking of communion, attending church services, or serving God is the ways He has called you. It can become a work. however, if one's heart is wrong about it, thinking that you will win position with God, His favour, or rewards, or even salvation. That makes it a work in the wrong sense.

[Vickilynn]

FloatingAxe wrote:

Anytime he can impress upon the human mind that anything of works is beneficial to achieve joy, he is very happy.

LOLOLOL!!

Shalom FA,

Sooooo, anything that brings us joy is of the devil? Really?

The Word says differently:

John 16

24"Until now you have asked for nothing in My name; ask and you will receive, so that your joy may be made full.

Galatians 5

22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,

23gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.

24Now those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.

25If we live by the Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit.

26Let us not become boastful, challenging one another, envying one another.

[Openly Curious]

Satan loves discord and differences. Hates unity. Anytime he can impress upon the human mind that anything of works is beneficial to achieve joy, he is very happy.

okay then the subject of tithes was brought up and tithes is a "Work" even though it was before the law was given in which was looking forward to the offering up of Christ body on the cross. Now I have to say from what you have said here that you are sowing discord as you are uplifting tithing so if what you are saying is true you are just as guilty discord and differences as others do not feel they have to pay tithes.

I have actually thought this thread was pretty friendly and have been able to converse and share my thoughts and opinions in my beliefs. I would hope we all could do this. I don't personally believe either side of the issue is sowing discord by sharing what they believe about the OP. There is always going to be differences of doctrine but our unity is in our faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.

thanks for your reply

OC

I never brought it up! I have never insisted that people adopt tithing.

I never said that you did bring it up I know who brought it up and I know you responded to it. I never said that you did insist that people adopt tithing I said you are practicing a "Work" by doing it by faith to be more clear and you are as guilty in the things you have said as the other side with differing views of sowing discord and disunity from the things you have said. The same with smoking it is also a "work" one does not do by faith.

OC

Smoking? Like as in bacon???????

No like tobacco assuming you are serious about your beliefs of course

OC

[Floatingaxe]

FloatingAxe wrote:

Anytime he can impress upon the human mind that anything of works is beneficial to achieve joy, he is very happy.

LOLOLOL!!

Shalom FA,

Sooooo, anything that brings us joy is of the devil? Really?

The Word says differently:

John 16

24"Until now you have asked for nothing in My name; ask and you will receive, so that your joy may be made full.

Galatians 5

22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,

23gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.

24Now those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.

25If we live by the Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit.

26Let us not become boastful, challenging one another, envying one another.

You have misunderstood my post.

With glee, which is very strange.

[Vickilynn]

Tithing is not any "work" in the sense of works! Neither is partaking of communion, attending church services, or serving God is the ways He has called you.

Shalom FA,

If that were really true, you would not be so condemning to anyone who says they believe following parts of the Law is how G-d has called them. You are being hypocritical if you say you believe these things and not the others. You can't have it both ways.

[Floatingaxe]

Tithing is not any "work" in the sense of works! Neither is partaking of communion, attending church services, or serving God is the ways He has called you.

Shalom FA,

If that were really true, you would not be so condemning to anyone who says they believe following parts of the Law is how G-d has called them. You are being hypocritical if you say you believe these things and not the others. You can't have it both ways.

Who is condemning? I am not hypocritical in the least.

[Vickilynn]

You have misunderstood my post.

Shalom FA,

If I have misunderstood your post, please clarify it for me.

With glee, which is very strange.

My goodness, for one who cuts people down with so-called jokes and so-called humor, ridicules people's beliefs and even the Word, your response is more than strange.

[Floatingaxe]

Satan loves discord and differences. Hates unity. Anytime he can impress upon the human mind that anything of works is beneficial to achieve joy, he is very happy.

okay then the subject of tithes was brought up and tithes is a "Work" even though it was before the law was given in which was looking forward to the offering up of Christ body on the cross. Now I have to say from what you have said here that you are sowing discord as you are uplifting tithing so if what you are saying is true you are just as guilty discord and differences as others do not feel they have to pay tithes.

I have actually thought this thread was pretty friendly and have been able to converse and share my thoughts and opinions in my beliefs. I would hope we all could do this. I don't personally believe either side of the issue is sowing discord by sharing what they believe about the OP. There is always going to be differences of doctrine but our unity is in our faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.

thanks for your reply

OC

I never brought it up! I have never insisted that people adopt tithing.

I never said that you did bring it up I know who brought it up and I know you responded to it. I never said that you did insist that people adopt tithing I said you are practicing a "Work" by doing it by faith to be more clear and you are as guilty in the things you have said as the other side with differing views of sowing discord and disunity from the things you have said. The same with smoking it is also a "work" one does not do by faith.

OC

Smoking? Like as in bacon???????

No like tobacco assuming you are serious about your beliefs of course

OC

What the hum has tobacco got to do with anything?

[Floatingaxe]

You have misunderstood my post.

Shalom FA,

If I have misunderstood your post, please clarify it for me.

With glee, which is very strange.

My goodness, for one who cuts people down with so-called jokes and so-called humor, ridicules people's beliefs and even the Word, your response is more than strange.

Excuse me for my joy! My happiness comes out in witticisms!

You have misunderstood in that the devil will impress upon some minds that performing certain works garners the joy of the Lord, but it is a counterfeit joy. It makes him sneer.

[Floatingaxe]

Tithing is not any "work" in the sense of works! Neither is partaking of communion, attending church services, or serving God is the ways He has called you. It can become a work. however, if one's heart is wrong about it, thinking that you will win position with God, His favour, or rewards, or even salvation. That makes it a work in the wrong sense.

This I find very confusing. Are you saying that when we partake in communion, attend church, and serve God as he has called us to, we don't receive his favor or rewards? Matthew 19:29 says "And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life." That sounds like rewards for giving things up for God. Then in 1 Corinthians 3:8 it says, "Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour."

Come on, Butero. You must know that we don't DO to GET.