Treat other as you want to be treated?

[Guest lnj]

When we think of Love in Christian terms, we tend to think of the "do good" , "fuzzy feeling" love.

If you read Mark 10 v 21

Where Jesus is talking to the rich, young ruler, the Bible tells us that Jesus, looking at the young ruler, LOVED him and then Jesus proceeds to deliver the Truth of being a Follower of His....for the young, ruler to give what he owns to the poor etc. Jesus was blunt and didn't mince words..tough love, Jesus style: )

So..included in the Love God wants us to show, is the love for one another- which INCLUDES sraight, forthright speech, which in some cases can wound...but nonetheless it is requied.

Tough love.

[Guest]

So..included in the Love God wants us to show, is the love for one another- which INCLUDES sraight, forthright speech, which in some cases can wound...but nonetheless it is requied.

Tough love.

Dear Brother "Observer of dreams"

What I found in The Book thanks to your question Dear Brother!

The radical, the root of the Golden Rule is, I think, Pure Love.

This is The Love of God, The Father and God, The Son and God, The Holy Ghost as declared.....

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." (John 3:16)

and.....

"And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him." (1 John 4:16)

Not only does this author miss the mark when she mocks God's Law but she is actually dancing with her love, dancing with death!

"But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death." (Proverbs 8:36)

I observe this rule is most often treated by the world either as a joke or as a weapon to be used to control others. God's Law (Golden Rule) is even used today in a tyrannical attempt to mute the Gospel i.e., "Don't tell anybody about Jesus, I don't want my neighbors treated like that, you have no right to share that, I will sue if you don't shut-up (but God Rules!)"

This darling of Academe appears to set her case for, possibly, this propose.

Maybe she just slipped it in hoping the student would miss the poison pill part and maybe your Professor brought it up hoping a student would see it for what it really is and challenge it!

Good teachers have been known to do such things don't you know!

Print this and ask him!

His reply might surprise us all!

Why we Love.....

"We love him, because he first loved us." (1 John 4:19)

"Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me." (John 15:4)

"If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love." (John 15:10)

Copy-Cat I know

But I do try to copy from the best!

I just wanted to see these two teachings together.

Too Cool!

"Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets." (Matthew 7:12)

"And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:"

"And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment."

"And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these." (Mark 12:29-31)

Love, Joe

PS: For some strange reason, these foundational Truths (Bible Scriptures) are almost never published in today's "scholarly" thesis!

"Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch." (Matthew 15:14)

Bonus addendum.....

God's Book of Love on Love.....

(1 Corinthians 13)

[1] Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.

[2] And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.

[3] And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.

[4] Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,

[5] Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;

[6] Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;

[7] Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

[8] Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

[9] For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.

[10] But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

[11] When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

[12] For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

[13] And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

(I have a long, long way to go but Jesus is working on me!)

[Kabowd]

Philosophical Perspective versus The Gospel of Jesus Christ!

These things aren't inherently opposed. Did you mean on this issue here?

Many of your posts at Worthy appear to me to be the thoughts of a College student who is totally immersed in the study of some subject he loves!

What is wrong with that?

"And I gave my heart to know wisdom, and to know madness and folly: I perceived that this also is vexation of spirit."

"For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow." (Ecclesiastes 1:17-18)

What are you implying with this verse?

The thoughts of a College student who applies his studies to every thought and action he can.

"Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;" (2 Corinthians 10:5)

Although an excellent way to a sold understanding of the doctrines of men and of demons.....

and although a sure-fire way to an A+.....

and although great ground work is laid toward a possible PhD.....

This practice Is Not The Way To Jesus Christ!

So we aren't supposed to love God with our minds?

"But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God."

"Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men." (1 Corinthians 24:25)

Are you suggesting Christians are to be stupid, ignorant and foolish?

[Observer of dreams]

That last reply was pretty rude. He has the bible memorized and went to seminary. I already pointed out that he was just doing his job.

He gave us the "flawed rule" argument knowing it could be disproved. He doesn't even agree with it himself. You need to soften your heart to ignorance and learn better communication skills, and next time please read the replies to the topic before you make such a rude comment next time tanx --Jason

[Guest]

Philosophical Perspective versus The Gospel of Jesus Christ!

These things aren't inherently opposed. Did you mean on this issue here?

Many of your posts at Worthy appear to me to be the thoughts of a College student who is totally immersed in the study of some subject he loves!

What is wrong with that?

"And I gave my heart to know wisdom, and to know madness and folly: I perceived that this also is vexation of spirit."

"For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow." (Ecclesiastes 1:17-18)

What are you implying with this verse?

The thoughts of a College student who applies his studies to every thought and action he can.

"Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;" (2 Corinthians 10:5)

Although an excellent way to a sold understanding of the doctrines of men and of demons.....

and although a sure-fire way to an A+.....

and although great ground work is laid toward a possible PhD.....

This practice Is Not The Way To Jesus Christ!

So we aren't supposed to love God with our minds?

"But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God."

"Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men." (1 Corinthians 24:25)

Are you suggesting Christians are to be stupid, ignorant and foolish?

Good questions!

Dear Brother, anytime you see Joe post anything that dishonors or may dishonor The Lord Jesus, please correct!

As you know, all the good stuff comes from Jesus!

All the other stuff is Joe's and must be safely discarded with the other toxic waste!

I was sharing with our Brother Jason, a little of "The Word" hid in my heart that kept me from falling totally away from God!

God gifted me in the late 1940's with a KJV Bible and with a home and with Churches that took it seriously!

I learned to read from This Bible.

I came to Jesus when I was six.

When I was a young adult, I walked in the world and studied both on my own and, after The USN, at College.

No matter what philosophy or theory I was attempting to follow, the Word of God hid in my heart continued to shine The Light of God upon them!

Needless to say, I got no real satisfaction from any earthy knowledge.

God is so Merciful and Gracious to His kids!

Jesus Is Faithful!

Love, Joe

PS: Jason, I think your Professor is, maybe a real sharp Believer and a sneaky teacher! Some of the best are sneaky, don't you know!

[RustyAngeL]

Nothing that Jesus has ever said is flawed. Your professor is flawed.

ditto. Just the spouting off of another liberal.

[Joshua-777]

My ethics professor introduced an argument that the golden rule is flawed. His reasoning is that quote, "Others don't always want to be treated as you want to be treated."

The question is therefore how can one live their life by the golden rule if the golden rule cannot always apply? I have already refuted this in my head but I want to see if someone else can reach the same, or a similar conclusion.

The golden rule, Well, lets aply it to the real golden rule, Love your neighbor as yourself, Basicly, what treat others as you would like to be treated, is a reflection of love your neighbor as yourself, it's not a matter, and Jesus never said that they will treat you how you want to be treated, no he pretty much said the world is going to hate you reguardless, because you are not of this world. The reason thats the golden rule, is because it's loving others, as we love ourselves, if we are hungery, ya we get some food and grub down, if we are thirsty, we ourselves get a drink, well the humbleness that comes from this is important, when our enemy is thirsty, give him a drink, treat others how you want to be treated, is a reflection of loving your neighbor as yourself. So I don't see how the argument is flawed. Now, the only way it is flawed is if your treating others the way you want to be treated to get somthing back. look at 1st corinthians 13, it says love doesn't seek it's own, so therefore, to love others as ourselves, and treat others how we would like to be treated, is not about seeking our own, it's not about seeking to be treated in the same matter, but it is about a foundation in the heart, and showing your heart as a witness to the person that Christ is working in your life.

[Leonardo Von]

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Treat other as you want to be treated?

This is the law and the prophets (Mat 7:12).  At grace's age, we ought to treat other as Jesus want to treat them.