Death Certificates on Abortions Proposed

[Jessi7811]

Man, this is apaulin!

Y should people b able to know who's had an abortion? Why should we publlicly display them to this?

I know from experience hence its not me my sister she had an abortion when she was 17 she regrets it daily. But at dat time the baby would have not had a life it deserved. Why bring it into the world? For that girl/boy life to b a tourment not bein able to receive the things that it need. Wat sort of life would that have been??????

For teenagers who have abortions who's gonna pay for them us! While that child grows up we pay for it. Even if the child goes into adoption they will always wanna know who there parents r. It would drive me senseless not knowin who I actual parents were.

I know I have not made myself clear I am against abortions even so these r circumstance that a child does not have to face.

Also I don't think an unborn child should have an death certificate either as the child has not really set foot on this earth. There in heaven a way from livin in this destructable world livin a dream we all seek to b wif God and thats the most important bit they havn't experience hurt, pain, they havn't even had a chance b posioned by the lies of Satan so man to tell u turth there better of than us!!!!

God Bless

Jessica

[forrestkc]

Forrest and Hamburgers, the UNBORN BABY IS THE ULTIMATE VICTIM! More so than the mothers! Such a blatant disregard for human life! Sheesh! Lets see, human life vs. a person's tainted record, what is more important? Good grief!

Then what would be wrong with doing this then?

So, if you guys are for that, then I say we should certainly not stop at creating death certificates for abortions. We should also require a death certificate for any miscarriage. In fact, even if a miscarriage occurs at only a few weeks after conception, the woman should be required to contact the police, the coroner should come out, investigate the death, and just like when someone dies in the home, the state should require that an autopsy be performed to determine cause of death and to rule out foul play as a cause of death. Most miscarriages result from natural causes, but everyone of them should be extensively investigated to make sure that their was nothing even remotely the mother could have done to prevent it from happening, and if there was, she should be held criminally responsible. For example, if the mother is found to have not been following the dietary and lifestyle recommendations of her physician, then the District Attorney should look at possibly filling manslaughter or negligent homicide charges. Either way though, there should be a permanent public record created about the incident. The whole world should have the opportunity to know about it.

[Oh Hamburgers!]

Forrest and Hamburgers, the UNBORN BABY IS THE ULTIMATE VICTIM! More so than the mothers! Such a blatant disregard for human life! Sheesh! Lets see, human life vs. a person's tainted record, what is more important? Good grief!

There has to be a better way to do it, this proposed bill is just a violation of rights, I'm sure there would be a better way to "gather information" about abortions in states than brand women.

Edit: Time for Class!

[nebula]

Hamburger - Forrest -

Care you not for the soul of the child that was slain in the womb?

[forrestkc]

Hamburger - Forrest -

Care you not for the soul of the child that was slain in the womb?

I care more about the children that our here among us right now.

I will pose this question to you as well. If Death Certs for abortions are a great idea, then what is wrong with this?:

So, if you guys are for that, then I say we should certainly not stop at creating death certificates for abortions. We should also require a death certificate for any miscarriage. In fact, even if a miscarriage occurs at only a few weeks after conception, the woman should be required to contact the police, the coroner should come out, investigate the death, and just like when someone dies in the home, the state should require that an autopsy be performed to determine cause of death and to rule out foul play as a cause of death. Most miscarriages result from natural causes, but everyone of them should be extensively investigated to make sure that their was nothing even remotely the mother could have done to prevent it from happening, and if there was, she should be held criminally responsible. For example, if the mother is found to have not been following the dietary and lifestyle recommendations of her physician, then the District Attorney should look at possibly filling manslaughter or negligent homicide charges. Either way though, there should be a permanent public record created about the incident. The whole world should have the opportunity to know about it.

[Guest dan franklin]

There has to be a name on a death certificate right? So, I think if you had to name your "fetus" it just might discourage you from going through with the abortion. I think this is a wonderful idea. Insulting? Hardly, if a child gets pregnant from being raped, she is still a child and under the supervision of her parents. If the parents choose to force their child to have an abortion, then that is something they will have to answer for, not the child.

But, pregnancy through incest or rape isn't so common that it happens 4 million times a year. That is the current annual abortion rate in this country.

I am all for doing whatever we can to discourage abortion and I think naming a "fetus" is a step in the right direction.

[Emily~Anne]

Hamburger - Forrest -

Care you not for the soul of the child that was slain in the womb?

I care more about the children that our here among us right now.

I will pose this question to you as well. If Death Certs for abortions are a great idea, then what is wrong with this?:

So, if you guys are for that, then I say we should certainly not stop at creating death certificates for abortions. We should also require a death certificate for any miscarriage. In fact, even if a miscarriage occurs at only a few weeks after conception, the woman should be required to contact the police, the coroner should come out, investigate the death, and just like when someone dies in the home, the state should require that an autopsy be performed to determine cause of death and to rule out foul play as a cause of death. Most miscarriages result from natural causes, but everyone of them should be extensively investigated to make sure that their was nothing even remotely the mother could have done to prevent it from happening, and if there was, she should be held criminally responsible. For example, if the mother is found to have not been following the dietary and lifestyle recommendations of her physician, then the District Attorney should look at possibly filling manslaughter or negligent homicide charges. Either way though, there should be a permanent public record created about the incident. The whole world should have the opportunity to know about it.

A death of any life should be treated as a death of a valid life. Even if it is only a few weeks after conception. if I were to miscarry, I would be comforted for people to validate that this was indeed a life that was lost. If anything is supicious, then yes Dr's should be required to call police, save the fetus and make sure there is nothing that shows deliberate murder. There is always a slight thing perhaps we could have done differently, but that doesn't mean the death was a result of that. Perhaps the mother could have drank more orange juice, perhaps she drank too much orange juice, perhaps she should have chosen different prenatal vitamins, perhaps the vitamins I give to my 3 yr old are not 100% the best I could give him though I did my best. These are not things you prosecute someone over. What you are proposing is that mothers who had miscarriages be treated unreasonably and even harsher than those who have a suspicious death of an already born child. The rest of us feel that the death of an unborn fetus should be EQUAL to the death of a 5 yr old for example.

[apothanein kerdos]

If these death certificates can prevent just one abortion, then I feel it is fully worth it.

The problem is it would be a violation of thousands of women's rights to privacy.

It would be a sacrifice of our freedoms in exchange for a little bit of security, and not that much security to be fair. At what point do we draw the line?

I'm all for avoiding abortions, but there has to be a better way than this bill is proposing.

And they violated a child's right to life. I don't see you up in arms about that. Why? Because you don't hold a Christian point of view - you separate your faith from the rest of your life.

[forrestkc]

A death of any life should be treated as a death of a valid life. Even if it is only a few weeks after conception. if I were to miscarry, I would be comforted for people to validate that this was indeed a life that was lost. If anything is supicious, then yes Dr's should be required to call police, save the fetus and make sure there is nothing that shows deliberate murder. There is always a slight thing perhaps we could have done differently, but that doesn't mean the death was a result of that. Perhaps the mother could have drank more orange juice, perhaps she drank too much orange juice, perhaps she should have chosen different prenatal vitamins, perhaps the vitamins I give to my 3 yr old are not 100% the best I could give him though I did my best. These are not things you prosecute someone over. What you are proposing is that mothers who had miscarriages be treated unreasonably and even harsher than those who have a suspicious death of an already born child. The rest of us feel that the death of an unborn fetus should be EQUAL to the death of a 5 yr old for example.

Ok, so we have it established. It is your extremist, and that is certainly not too strong of a term, opinion that all miscarriages should be brought out into the public square. Everyone in the world should have the opportunity to dig into the personal lives of the parents and circumstances that surround them.

Nothing I have proposed is any different than what happens with a death in the home. If a 12 week old fetus is the same thing as a child, then if a miscarriage has to be treated as a death in the home. If a death occurs in the home, then coroner is notified and an autopsy and investigation automatically occurs. Therefore, for every miscarriage in the home, there would an official investigation, and for every miscarriage in the home, there would be autopsy to determine cause of death and rule out fowl play, and all of this, including the name, social security number, and address of the parents, and anything related to the investigation, would be a matter of public record and anyone could dig into it at any point from then on.

You see this is the result of what you are poposing. This is why it is both extremist and immoral.

[Emily~Anne]

A death of any life should be treated as a death of a valid life. Even if it is only a few weeks after conception. if I were to miscarry, I would be comforted for people to validate that this was indeed a life that was lost. If anything is supicious, then yes Dr's should be required to call police, save the fetus and make sure there is nothing that shows deliberate murder. There is always a slight thing perhaps we could have done differently, but that doesn't mean the death was a result of that. Perhaps the mother could have drank more orange juice, perhaps she drank too much orange juice, perhaps she should have chosen different prenatal vitamins, perhaps the vitamins I give to my 3 yr old are not 100% the best I could give him though I did my best. These are not things you prosecute someone over. What you are proposing is that mothers who had miscarriages be treated unreasonably and even harsher than those who have a suspicious death of an already born child. The rest of us feel that the death of an unborn fetus should be EQUAL to the death of a 5 yr old for example.

Ok, so we have it established. It is your extremist, and that is certainly not too strong of a term, opinion that all miscarriages should be brought out into the public square. Everyone in the world should have the opportunity to dig into the personal lives of the parents and circumstances that surround them.

Nothing I have proposed is any different than what happens with a death in the home. If a 12 week old fetus is the same thing as a child, then if a miscarriage has to be treated as a death in the home. If a death occurs in the home, then coroner is notified and an autopsy and investigation automatically occurs. Therefore, for every miscarriage in the home, there would an official investigation, and for every miscarriage in the home, there would be autopsy to determine cause of death and rule out fowl play, and all of this, including the name, social security number, and address of the parents, and anything related to the investigation, would be a matter of public record and anyone could dig into it at any point from then on.

You see this is the result of what you are poposing. This is why it is both extremist and immoral.

Then I guess you feel it is extremist and immoral to investigate the death of an older child too. Either that, or you hold very little value for unborn life.