Cradle of Mankind.

[ChristianHardRocker]

Is Africa the cradle of man or the Middle East?

what is exactly the cradle of man?

[nebula]

The trouble with trying to locate the Garden of Eden is that the Earth's surface has changed since then. The rivers Pison and Gihon no longer exist, and we don't know if the Tigris and Euphrates that we know are the same ones that went from Eden or not.

[Guest lnj]

Is Africa the cradle of man or the Middle East?

what is exactly the cradle of man?

The starting point (location on earth) of human life.

[Amhis]

I earlier mentioned a compelling belief of where the Garden of Eden may have been. Below, find the online article's information that I was alluding to. Although I don't accept this theory as fact, I do however think it is a very interesting read.

http://www.ldolphin.org/eden/

[GeneV]

If we're off the subject of the 'cradle of man' which I would take to mean after the flood and onto the garden of Eden which would be the origin of man. It would be somewhere near the Euphrates and east of Assyria see below for link. I seem to recall that the Almighty posted Cherubim to guard the tree of life in the east of Eden with flaming swords . They will still be there, and I don't imagine I will be off to my travel agent to book a ticket any time soon. In short it is out there somewhere and presumably we might get to see it someday

Geography

Assyria is located in north Mesopotamia and spans four countries: In Syria it extends west to the Euphrates river; in Turkey it extends north to Harran, Edessa, Diyarbakir, and Lake Van; in Iran it extends east to Lake Urmi, and in Iraq it extends to about 100 miles south of Kirkuk. This is the Assyrian heartland, from which so much of the ancient Near East came to be controlled.

Courtesy http://www.aina.org/aol/peter/brief.htm#Emergence

Interesting to note that shortly after the Crucifixion around 60 AD a good number of the 'Assyrians' became Christians.

[Guest lnj]

Hmmmm....So you are of the mindset that you start from AFTER the Flood?

I truly hadn't thought of that and just PRESUMED it would start before....

[GeneV]

Hmmmm....So you are of the mindset that you start from AFTER the Flood?

I truly hadn't thought of that and just PRESUMED it would start before....

I wouldn't have brought it down to that either, although, as Nebula stated, those with curiosities piqued about where the Garden of Eden was often forget that the flood changed the topography of not only the middle east but the entire world drasticly. I'm sure when they began rebuilding after the flood, they renamed places, regions and rivers with names that were already familiar to them, but were no longer in the same exact places as they had been before.

Sorry perhaps we're on a different page here; perhaps if I explain myself.......

When I refer to the 'Cradle' I am using the secular anthropological sense of the word which I do not associate with the origin of humankind in Genesis and the Garden of Eden. The so called cradle of man can ostensibly be 'dated' whereas we have no means of dating the Garden. Dunno if that makes sense So where I am coming from is; the whole species was destroyed during the flood apart from Noah and his family and this happened after Adam. So... :rolleyes:Double posted - sticky fingers sorry!!!!

[GeneV]

Hmmmm....So you are of the mindset that you start from AFTER the Flood?

I truly hadn't thought of that and just PRESUMED it would start before....

I wouldn't have brought it down to that either, although, as Nebula stated, those with curiosities piqued about where the Garden of Eden was often forget that the flood changed the topography of not only the middle east but the entire world drasticly. I'm sure when they began rebuilding after the flood, they renamed places, regions and rivers with names that were already familiar to them, but were no longer in the same exact places as they had been before.

Sorry perhaps we're on a different page here; perhaps if I explain myself.......

When I refer to the 'Cradle' I am using the secular anthropological sense of the word which I do not associate with the origin of humankind in Genesis and the Garden of Eden. The so called cradle of man can ostensibly be 'dated' whereas we have no means of dating the Garden. Dunno if that makes sense So where I am coming from is; the whole species was destroyed during the flood apart from Noah and his family and this happened after Adam. So...

[Guest lnj]

Hmmmm....So you are of the mindset that you start from AFTER the Flood?

I truly hadn't thought of that and just PRESUMED it would start before....

I wouldn't have brought it down to that either, although, as Nebula stated, those with curiosities piqued about where the Garden of Eden was often forget that the flood changed the topography of not only the middle east but the entire world drasticly. I'm sure when they began rebuilding after the flood, they renamed places, regions and rivers with names that were already familiar to them, but were no longer in the same exact places as they had been before.

Sorry perhaps we're on a different page here; perhaps if I explain myself.......

When I refer to the 'Cradle' I am using the secular anthropological sense of the word which I do not associate with the origin of humankind in Genesis and the Garden of Eden. The so called cradle of man can ostensibly be 'dated' whereas we have no means of dating the Garden. Dunno if that makes sense So where I am coming from is; the whole species was destroyed during the flood apart from Noah and his family and this happened after Adam. So...

Ok, I see where you are coming from..

So from a Christian point of view, I wonder where we should be starting from? If it's from the original Adam, then we have covered that in previous posts.

Luckily we know where the starting point of different languages originate!! Imagine trying to figure that one out.............

[EricH]

I believe the cradle of mankind is Wrigley Field