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Channel 4 Thursday 8 March at 9pm

In a polemical and thought-provoking documentary, film-maker Martin Durkin argues that the theory of man-made global warming has become such a powerful political force that other explanations for climate change are not being properly aired.

The film brings together the arguments of leading scientists who disagree with the prevailing consensus that a 'greenhouse effect' of carbon dioxide released by human activity is the cause of rising global temperatures.

Instead the documentary highlights recent research that the effect of the sun's radiation on the atmosphere may be a better explanation for the regular swings of climate from ice ages to warm interglacial periods and back again.

The film argues that the earth's climate is always changing, and that rapid warmings and coolings took place long before the burning of fossil fuels. It argues that the present single-minded focus on reducing carbon emissions not only may have little impact on climate change, it may also have the unintended consequence of stifling development in the third world, prolonging endemic poverty and disease.

The film features an impressive roll-call of experts, including nine professors – experts in climatology, oceanography, meteorology, environmental science, biogeography and paleoclimatology – from such reputable institutions as MIT, NASA, the International Arctic Research Centre, the Institut Pasteur, the Danish National Space Center and the Universities of London, Ottawa, Jerusalem, Winnipeg, Alabama and Virginia.

The film hears from scientists who dispute the link between carbon dioxide levels and global temperatures.

'The ice core record goes to the very heart of the problem we have,' says Tim Ball, Climatologist and Prof Emeritus of Geography at the University of Winnipeg in the documentary. 'They said if CO2 increases in the atmosphere, as a greenhouse gas, then the temperature will go up'.

In fact, the experts in the film argue that increased CO2 levels are actually a result of temperature rises, not their cause, and that this alternate view is rarely heard. 'So the fundamental assumption, the most fundamental assumption of the whole theory of climate change due to humans, is shown to be wrong.'

'I've often heard it said that there is a consensus of thousands of scientists on the global warming issue, that humans are causing a catastrophic change to the climate system,' says John Christy, Professor and Director of the Earth System Science Center, NSSTC University of Alabama. 'Well I am one scientist, and there are many, that simply think that is not true.'

Channel 4 News Click the link for more info on this documentary. There are also links to the history of the environmental movement and the Gia Theory. Fascinating.

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It may or may not be happening, but if it is, it's not caused by humans.


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So is your point that global warming is NOT happening or that it is happening but may not be significantly accelerated by humans?

It's not my point, it's the point of scientists.


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It's not my point, it's the point of scientists.

I have a Master's in ecology, so I guess I am a scientist.

No, it's not the point of most scientists. Most scientists, especially the relevant ones (climatologists) believe global warming is anthropogenic.


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So is your point that global warming is NOT happening or that it is happening but may not be significantly accelerated by humans?

It's not my point, it's the point of scientists.

I'm sure you meant "...it's the point of SOME scientists."

Regardless, the majority concensus in the scientific community is that it IS happening. So, if it IS happening and if it does pose a threat to humanity shouldn't we go ahead and work on trying to change that trend? I mean, even if humans are not accelerating the process, should we do nothing and just wait for the flooding when the sea level rises? Shouldn't we be looking at ways to slow it down or reverse it? Should we just ignore it simply because the liberals are leading the charge? We certainly don't want to agree with those liberals on anything...

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The climate scientists and at the blog RealClimate have a piece debunking this documentry.


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You think temps are rising, well wait for twenty years and you will think we are going into another ice age. The temperatures have risen before and fallen before. This is not the first time the earth got warm. Nor will it be the last. Enjoy the time that you have, since that is what is most precious to you.


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The climate scientists and at the blog RealClimate have a piece debunking this documentry.

D'yall see the title of this forum: Most Interesting News Developments. I found the story interesting.

Most scientists, but not all, are on the global warming bandwagon. Most scientists are on the evolution bandwagon, too. Does that make them right? See...science is what it is, and it is not my religion.


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You think temps are rising, well wait for twenty years and you will think we are going into another ice age. The temperatures have risen before and fallen before. This is not the first time the earth got warm. Nor will it be the last. Enjoy the time that you have, since that is what is most precious to you.

Funny you would write that! Mike said his sermon on Thursday was something to that effect. Great minds... :emot-hug:


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"Global warming" is the exciting New (Socialist) Religion of our humanist age with Algore currently its CEO. What, one degree difference in 100-years? I'm verily impressed by "Global warming" religionists who rather calmly exercise such a hefty amount of pro-liberal censorship against all who may dare to disagree in any way, shape or form. Liberals censoring?! Why so many ipse dixits without BOTH sides addressing the issue? And might not the Creator-God have something at all to say about kind folk who may earnestly feel that this particular "Global Warming" religion might also be an attempt to further radically debilitate beleageured American taxpayers by stretching them on a procrustean bed of social innovation in order to bring everyone down to socialism's identical lower strata. Very interesting. Further, might not the One TRUE God of the universe, even Jesus Christ the Righteous One, be already in the process of preparing the creation for His 'New World Order' as HE sees fit in accordance with Revelation Chapters 21 & 22, etc.? Signs of the times are certainly pointing to the soon return of Jesus Christ in order to regenerate all of creation. Please: More information from BOTH sides in EQUAL-time reporting.

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