Our Solar System and Evolution

[sheya joie]

Dear Andrew,

A couple of corrections for you:

Regarding Venus - Teutonic means German, more or less. I think the word you want is techtonic.

Regarding the orbits of the planets - the orbits are not circular; they are elliptical, with the Sun at one of the two foci of the ellipse. This is Johannes Kepler's First Law of Planetary Motion.

[ted]

Members,

Please keep these public discussions as civil as possible. I had to delete the last two posts due to personal issues spilling out into the public arena.

Thank you for your cooperation.

t.

Sorry. It just gets a little tiresome posting and reposting and reposting the answers to horizons questions and having him ignore them. Who was the other poster that you deleted?

Yours and Horizoneast's

It was the posts, though, not the posters that were deleted.

I'm sorry that I have to do this out in the open, but I can't do it through PM in your case, hence the public announcement.

t.

[MorningGlory]

Cosmic evolution isn't Darwinian evolution...

I am going to disagree with you once again Lorax (someday we will find some common ground) - Darwinian evolution (actually "Neo-Darwinian") as a mythical worldview has been ratcheted up to a

[The Lorax]

I don't understand the reasoning behind throwing Darwinian anything into this discussion; it was not mentioned by Andrew A. and is, therefore, not relevant to his comments.

Things like relevance have never stopped Horizoneast from sharing his opinions on Darwinism.

(Just say the word and watch him go.)

I'm not sure where any of this information comes from but the holes in Andrew's thesis are big enough to drive through with my SUV.

Andrew A., if you're out there, please post your sources. I am not making light of your post, it appears you put a lot of work and thought into it; I'd just like to know the source(s) of your information.

I'm thinking Andrew just paraphrased someone else's rant (probably from memory, given some of the errors). Wish I knew the original source, but I suspect Andrew is gone for good.

[The Lorax]

Darwinism has nothing to do with this thread. The OP is talking about the nebula theory, not an esoteric cosmic selection hypothesis like Lee's or Smolin's--which ARE Darwinian. Unless Andrew returns or someone feels like debunking more of his claims, I think this thread has run its course.

[Guest]

Darwinism has nothing to do with this thread. The OP is talking about the nebula theory, not an esoteric cosmic selection hypothesis like Lee's or Smolin's--which ARE Darwinian. Unless Andrew returns or someone feels like debunking more of his claims, I think this thread has run its course.

Debunk

Then Job answered and said,

I know it is so of a truth: but how should man be just with God?

If he will contend with him, he cannot answer him one of a thousand.

He is wise in heart, and mighty in strength: who hath hardened himself against him, and hath prospered?

Which removeth the mountains, and they know not: which overturneth them in his anger.

Which shaketh the earth out of her place, and the pillars thereof tremble.

Which commandeth the sun, and it riseth not; and sealeth up the stars.

Which alone spreadeth out the heavens, and treadeth upon the waves of the sea.

Which maketh Arcturus, Orion, and Pleiades, and the chambers of the south.

Which doeth great things past finding out; yea, and wonders without number.

Job 9:1-10

Why

When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained;

What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?

Psalms 8:3-4

Man O'Rags

But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

Isaiah 64:6

Impossible

And they were astonished out of measure, saying among themselves, Who then can be saved? And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible.

Mark 10:26-27

Love

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

John 3:16

The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:

The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:

The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.

And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel; and I will bless them.

Numbers 6:24-27

Love, Joe

[MorningGlory]

Darwinism has nothing to do with this thread. The OP is talking about the nebula theory, not an esoteric cosmic selection hypothesis like Lee's or Smolin's--which ARE Darwinian. Unless Andrew returns or someone feels like debunking more of his claims, I think this thread has run its course.