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Glory

I really don't see the need for the personal attacks that are getting more and more frequent here at Worthy. Like the one above. huh.gif It would seem that one who cannot debate throws insults.

I think it is up to horizon whether he takes offense to that, but it probably wasn't necessary (it didn't really help the argument dave :21: ). Though if he did take offense, I would suggest that he look at some of his own 'arguments' ;) .

Anyway, back on topic. I think the normal theistic answer to the question of vestigial organs has to do with the Fall, right?

BTW, I thought goose bumps had more to do with increasing the surface area of the skin... though I'm probably wrong.

EDIT: Horizon, I can only assume that due to your lack of rebuttal to post #16 that you don't dissagree with ANY of the points raised :wub:

Sorry, atheistreview, you are wrong. Since everyone here reads and posts on this forum, anyone can take issue with comments like those directed at horizoneast. More than one of us has made such comments, including myself. A debate is an exchange of ideas and views; you know this, I'm sure. :wub:

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The OP is dealing with astronomy and not biological evolution. Of course every scientific theory will change if new evidence is presented that challenges the status quo. This is a good thing.

Yes.

And yes, the theory of evolution is changing. The addition of genetics was an important change (an expansion, really) of the theory. Another change was the shift to Gould's idea of punctuated equilibria. The fossil record reflects that evolution seems to occur more in short bursts than in the gradualistic changes Darwinists originally thought. (Although these "short" bursts still appear gradual from our timescale.)

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'Man made the Atom bomb

But never could design a daisy.'

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just a little nugget for your information!

this is from "answers in Genesis" April 7, 2007

Q: Are evolutionist

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Welcome To Worthy

What The Bible Says About Man

As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:

Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:

Their feet are swift to shed blood:

Destruction and misery are in their ways:

And the way of peace have they not known:

There is no fear of God before their eyes.

Romans 3:10-18

Hmmm. How long does the bible say that man has been here? :39:
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Who hath declared from the beginning, that we may know? and beforetime, that we may say, He is righteous? yea, there is none that sheweth, yea, there is none that declareth, yea, there is none that heareth your words.
Isaiah 41:26

The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:

The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:

The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.

And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel; and I will bless them.

Numbers 6:24-27

Love, Joe

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 3:16

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The Bible on the other hand is an Anvil that has worn out many critics hammers....

Hmmm. How long does the bible say that man has been here? :thumbsup:

Actually, it doesn't say, exactly. People base the appx 6,000 years based on a couple of genealogical lines that are given. Any misinterpretation of that would be upon the shoulders of those who conclude the time frame, not on the Bible itself.

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The Bible on the other hand is an Anvil that has worn out many critics hammers....

Hmmm. How long does the bible say that man has been here? :emot-hug:

Actually, it doesn't say, exactly. People base the appx 6,000 years based on a couple of genealogical lines that are given. Any misinterpretation of that would be upon the shoulders of those who conclude the time frame, not on the Bible itself.

t.

Do creationists have a range, give or take whatever amount they like, that they have derived from the bible? Could it be in the billions of years according to the bible, or or that not possible?

Yes, there is a range which creationists use, but that's not what you asked. You asked about how long the Bible says that man has been here, and it doesn't say, exactly. In fact, it barely mentions it, other than a few genealogical lines.

Creationists form their roughly 6,000 year number based on those lists. Personally, I don't think God has revealed that much to us yet, so I remain open to the possibility that both sides have it wrong, although I tend to side with God's Word in these matters of discrepancy.

I think He knows a bit more than mankind does. :laugh:

t.

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