The Trinity

[Guest LAW]

I noticed discussion in the thread on Jesus' divinity as expressed in his statement the before Moses was "I am" that some believers do not accept the belief in the Trinity as one being but view it as three separate beings or manifestations of God. I am aware that the LDS and JW hold the latter view. Are there other churchs (i'm particularly interested in any "mainstream" protestants) that do not believe in the concept of the Trinity as one God?

[Eliyahuw]

I noticed discussion in the thread on Jesus' divinity as expressed in his statement the before Moses was "I am" that some believers do not accept the belief in the Trinity as one being but view it as three separate beings or manifestations of God. I am aware that the LDS and JW hold the latter view. Are there other churchs (i'm particularly interested in any "mainstream" protestants) that do not believe in the concept of the Trinity as one God?

its both. There is but One God. But jesus is also God and the Holy spirit is also God.

[Guest LAW]

I do agree that God is Father-Son-Holy Spirit. But some people teach that they are totally separate and apart. That the Father is God but is not the Son, that the Son is God but is not the Father and so on. I am aware that this is the view of the LDS and JW. But i just wondered if there are other religions out there that fall under the Chrisitanity umbrella and hold in the 3 separate beings theology.

[Vickilynn]

I do agree that God is Father-Son-Holy Spirit. But some people teach that they are totally separate and apart. That the Father is God but is not the Son, that the Son is God but is not the Father and so on. I am aware that this is the view of the LDS and JW. But i just wondered if there are other religions out there that fall under the Chrisitanity umbrella and hold in the 3 separate beings theology.

Shalom LAW,

I'm not sure what LDS and JWs teach about the Tri-Unity of G-d, but I believe they are separate and apart, not One who does all 3 functions. I believe G-D is made up of G-d the Father, G-d the Son (Yeshua) and G-d the Holy Spirit. All equally G-d, but Jesus is not the Father and the Father is not the Holy Spirit, but equal.

Jesus sits on the right hand of the Father, He is not the Father. BUT, Jesus is Divine as G-d, part of the Tri-Unity.

Acts 2

31he looked ahead and spoke of the resurrection of the Christ, that HE WAS NEITHER ABANDONED TO HADES, NOR DID His flesh SUFFER DECAY.

32"This Jesus God raised up again, to which we are all witnesses.

33"Therefore having been exalted to the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, He has poured forth this which you both see and hear.

[Eliyahuw]

I do agree that God is Father-Son-Holy Spirit. But some people teach that they are totally separate and apart. That the Father is God but is not the Son, that the Son is God but is not the Father and so on. I am aware that this is the view of the LDS and JW. But i just wondered if there are other religions out there that fall under the Chrisitanity umbrella and hold in the 3 separate beings theology.

God is all three. Jesus is God but is also man. he is both God and Man. holy spirit is Gods spirit sent as the comforter.

[RustyAngeL]

I do agree that God is Father-Son-Holy Spirit. But some people teach that they are totally separate and apart. That the Father is God but is not the Son, that the Son is God but is not the Father and so on. I am aware that this is the view of the LDS and JW. But i just wondered if there are other religions out there that fall under the Chrisitanity umbrella and hold in the 3 separate beings theology.

Their all one. Water comes in three forms.. The liquid that comes out out the tap, the ice in your freezer or the steam that comes off the water when you boil it, but it's all water. Just three different forms. Simple maybe but it worked for me.

[Vickilynn]

Their all one. Water comes in three forms.. The liquid that comes out out the tap, the ice in your freezer or the steam that comes off the water when you boil it, but it's all water. Just three different forms. Simple maybe but it worked for me.

Shalom Rusty,

How can Jesus sit at the right hand of the Father, if they are one and same person?

How about this explanation...

There are things in life that are triune in nature but one.

For example: An egg is one but with three distinctions. You have the yoke, the white, and the shell, but all three composite the one egg.

Another example: A piece of fruit such as the peach has three components. A peach has the outer layer (the skin), the inner layer (the juicy stuff known as the meat), and the core. All three components composite the one peach.

[Kabowd]

Ultimately, all examples and analogies we try to use will fall short because God is ontologically different than we are. Whether we can wrap our brain around the concept or not...it doesn't change the fact that Scripture clearly states that God is three persons (Father, Son, Holy Spirit)...all distinctly different, and yet all ONE.

[Vickilynn]

Ultimately, all examples and analogies we try to use will fall short because God is ontologically different than we are. Whether we can wrap our brain around the concept or not...it doesn't change the fact that Scripture clearly states that God is three persons (Father, Son, Holy Spirit)...all distinctly different, and yet all ONE.

Shalom K,

Of course examples fall short.

The difference is whether people believe G-d is one person in 3 functions, or 3 persons in one G-dhead.

I believe the Scriptures say the latter.

I don't believe as humans we can fully comprehend the Tri-unity, try as we might.

[GeneV]

Ultimately, all examples and analogies we try to use will fall short because God is ontologically different than we are. Whether we can wrap our brain around the concept or not...it doesn't change the fact that Scripture clearly states that God is three persons (Father, Son, Holy Spirit)...all distinctly different, and yet all ONE.

Nicely said