The Jewish are YHVH'S People!

[Tyler]

The Jewish are YHVH'S people whether they believe in Yeshua or not.

So do you believe they will go to heaven if they don't believe in Yeshua?

Your brother in Messiah with much agape love,

George

Why have the Jews been so terribly persecuted all of this time? For missing the visitation of their Messiah!? For their unbelief!? I believe all unbelievers will not see heaven.

However God NEVER backs out on His Promises!

Zechariah 8:23

Thus says the Lord of Hosts; In those days ten men from every language of the nations shall grasp the sleeve of a JEWISH MAN, saying, Let us go with you, for we have heard God is with you.

The greatest men who have ever walked the earth, were Jewish! In part it is a no small wonder why the world hates the Jews!

The Jews(Israel), are God's chosen people, how can a person say he loves God ,yet

hate the Jew in his heart??

Only Christ Saves

[Dad Ernie]

Greetings Tyler,

The Jews(Israel), are God's chosen people, how can a person say he loves God ,yet

hate the Jew in his heart??

Do you know George? He is our moderator right now serving as evangelist IN ISRAEL, because of his love for the Jews. He asked a very appropriate question. Do you consider yourself to be one of the "people of God"? Do you consider yourself one of the chosen - one of the "elect"? Whether Jew or Gentile, God loves those who love His Son - PERIOD! Those who know not the Son, do NOT know the Father either. Salvation is in none other than Jesus Christ. And the "people of God" are the ones who follow His Son."

Blessings,

Dad Ernie

[Guest shiloh357]

The Jewish people are still God's people in the sense that they are still the chosen people.

"Chosen" does not mean "favorite." God still has a purpose for them to fulfill and they will fulfill it before the end. God does not fail, and his calling upon the Jewish people will be realized when all is said and done.

Non-Jewish believers tend to get defensive when the "chosen" issue comes up, because they do not know what "chosen" really means. It simply refers to being picked out for a particular task. It does not mean that Jews are better than anyone else, or more holy, or more favored or more loved or anything else of similar ilk. Jews and Gentiles stand as equals before God, but are in different categories of observance. They are different, but one is not better than the other.

Don't you parents choose between your children to perform certain tasks around the house? One may be sent to mow the yard, one may sent to dust and vacuum, one may be sent to wash the dishes, each is chosen to do a partiular task, but all will be reward in accordance to his task and the manner in which it was completed.

Of course Jewish people will go to Hell if they reject Yeshua. That should go without saying.

[Matthitjah]

Grace and Peace in Christ Jesus,

I believe they missed my point too.

The Jewish are YHVH'S people whether they believe in Yeshua or

not.

Snowdoove???

I believe you have stated here that the Jews don't have to believe on Messiah to enter heaven.

I would concur we are all G-ds children Jew and Gentile alike. Created children of G-d.

Only difference being some are children of the blessing others children of the curse.

Some children of the flesh others children of the Spirit.

Some children of the Faith some children of the world or mans attempt at G-d (Religion).

Big difference either way you look at it.

There is only one way to be acceptable to the Father. Thru Christ Jesus! Jew or Gentile.

Temporary blessing or eternal? Isaac or Ishmael, Jacob or Esau? David or Saul? A man with a heart after G-d or one with one after himself.

The eyes of the Lord roam the earth looking for a heart fully committed to Him.

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[Guest yod]

actually Snowdoove said:

Of course Jewish people will go to Hell if they reject Yeshua. That should go without saying.

did Luke not see this before posting;

I believe you have stated here that the Jews don't have to believe on Messiah to enter heaven.

All she is saying is the they are STILL the Chosen People.....which is not the same as saying they are the ONLY people chosen. Why is that a complicated statement?

[George]

actually Snowdoove said:QUOTE 

Of course Jewish people will go to Hell if they reject Yeshua. That should go without saying. 

Actually Shiloh stated that and not Snowdoove.

Your brother in Messiah with much agape love,

George

[Dad Ernie]

Greetings Shiloh,

The Jewish people are still God's people in the sense that they are still the chosen people.

"Chosen" does not mean "favorite."

I beg to disagree with you Shiloh. There ARE Greek words (interprted chosen) that pertain to just what you are saying, but when regards are given to "favorite" or "salvation", these are the words used:

ELECT

1588 eklektos {ek-lek-tos'}

from 1586; TDNT - 4:181,505; adj

AV - elect 16, chosen 7; 23

1) picked out, chosen

1a) chosen by God,

1a1) to obtain salvation through Christ

1a1a) Christians are called "chosen or elect" of God

1a2) the Messiah in called "elect", as appointed by God to the

most exalted office conceivable

1a3) choice, select, i.e. the best of its kind or class,

excellence preeminent: applied to certain individual

Christians

CHOSEN

1586 eklegomai {ek-leg'-om-ahee}

middle voice from 1537 and 3004 (in its primary sense);

TDNT - 4:144,505; v

AV - choose 19, choose out 1, make choice 1; 21

1) to pick out, choose, to pick or choose out for one's self

1a) choosing one out of many, i.e. Jesus choosing his disciples

1b) choosing one for an office

1c) of God choosing whom he judged fit to receive his favours

and separated from the rest of mankind to be peculiarly his

own and to be attended continually by his gracious oversight

1c1) i.e. the Israelites

1d) of God the Father choosing Christians, as those whom he

set apart from the irreligious multitude as dear unto

himself, and whom he has rendered, through faith in Christ,

citizens in the Messianic kingdom: (James 2:5) so that the

ground of the choice lies in Christ and his merits only

I think you know that I know that God has 'CHOSEN' Israel for a particular purpose from history past to the very end, but ONLY those who acknowledge and receive Christ as their Savior are THE ELECT or THE CHOSEN or THE ETERNALLY SAVED.

Blessings,

Dad Ernie

[Tyler]

I think you know that I know that God has 'CHOSEN' Israel for a particular purpose from history past to the very end, but ONLY those who acknowledge and receive Christ as their Savior are THE ELECT or THE CHOSEN or THE ETERNALLY SAVED.

Blessings,

Dad Ernie

None of which you would not have received if it weren't for the Jewish people!

I love the Jewish people because of the Patriarchs, and for the role they are playing in God's plan! Where would we be without the Jews??

P.S. God isn't called the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob for nuthin!

Only Christ Saves

[Guest yod]

I think you know that I know that God has 'CHOSEN' Israel for a particular purpose from history past to the very end, but ONLY those who acknowledge and receive Christ as their Savior are THE ELECT or THE CHOSEN or THE ETERNALLY SAVED.

that's right!!!!

....because they are no longer excluded from the commonwealth of Israel

Ephesians 2:12

[Dad Ernie]

I think you know that I know that God has 'CHOSEN' Israel for a particular purpose from history past to the very end, but ONLY those who acknowledge and receive Christ as their Savior are THE ELECT or THE CHOSEN or THE ETERNALLY SAVED.

that's right!!!!

....because they are no longer excluded from the commonwealth of Israel

Ephesians 2:12

Greetings Yod,

I think we've gone through that before. We are ONLY "drawn nigh" to Israel in Christ. WE DO NOT BECOME A PART OF ISRAEL EITHER PHYSICAL OR SPIRITUAL.

Blessings,

Dad Ernie