To spare the rod is to spoil the child?

[kjvtrue]

By hitting the child, is teaching that violence is okay. My Father used to hit me occasionally when I was growing up. When I came to be 10, I fought him back and I won. I'd never trusted him, And I won't let him be alone with my Grandchildren.

[Guest LadyC]

kjv, big difference between "hitting" a child and "spanking" a child. spanking does not teach violence.

[kjvtrue]

kjv, big difference between "hitting" a child and "spanking" a child. spanking does not teach violence.

There both the same.

[Guest LadyC]

no, they are not. spanking is done as a corrective measure out of love. hitting is done as a physical assault out of anger.

i was spanked, i was never abused. i love and respect my parents for having used spanking as a method of corrective discipline. nor did i grow up with a tendency to physically abuse others.

i've never met a person who was "spanked" (without abuse) of equating spanking with physical assault. i've never even read stories of such.

i have read countless stories, however, of people who were physically abused as children thinking that spanking is the same thing.

God's own word instructs us in spanking... as a corrective discipline. by the same token, God's word also warns against those who will harm a child. clearly God distinguishes between the two.

[kjvtrue]

spank (spngk)

v. spanked, spank

[Guest LadyC]

abuse:

Improper use or handling; misuse: abuse of authority; drug abuse.

Physical maltreatment: spousal abuse.

Sexual abuse.

An unjust or wrongful practice: a government that commits abuses against its citizens.

Insulting or coarse language: verbal abuse.

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[irishcowboy]

Obviously, you have no idea what true spanking is.....

spanking a child for reason the child knows...

ie: punishment for repeatedly back talking is spanking...

=

inprisonment for contempt of court.....

spanking is not abuse, beating a child thru-out the head and shoulder region is abuse....

spanking a child on the butt, is not abuse, thrashing a child uncontrolible where there are whelps thru-out the back and legs is abuse.....

spanking in this house was used as an attention getter, ie: time out dont work, grounding dont work, restriction to room dont work, get attention, now, hear this.....

hmmmm, funny, it works......

there was this ol' farmer, that bought himself a new mule to assist in working the farm......

after days upon days of struggling to get this mule to work, the farmer had no luck..... so he called the local mule skinner......

the mule skinner shows up, and asked the farmer what the problem was, the farmer explained, and the skinner walks over to his wagon, and takes a 2x4 out and whollops the mule across the bridge of the nose.....

the mule then did exactly as the skinner wants, and then the skinner turns the mule over to the farmer....

the farmer asks why he did what he did, and the mule skinner says.........

YOU GOTS TO GETS THEIR ATTENTION BEFORE YOU CAN GET THEM TO DO ANYTHING........

some times our children are like that, but a firm, controled swat on the back side does get their attention.....

I am not talking about beating with a paddle, or switch, I used my hand, why??? cause I knew exactly what they was feeling, for I was also feeling the same thing..... did I ever beat my kids??? No!....

my children are very respectful to all the adults in this town and well, all of them they come in contact with....... and the boys are very much respected by all the administration at the schools they attend, and the churches they attend, why??? cause they were raised IAW the Bible.... both are working in the churches serving God..... do I hope they use spanking as a means of discipline???? only if it is required......

when I have spanked, I did not do this out of anger, was I angered at the deed? maybe, but at the same time, I can control the anger and can also admonish with out anger..... there have been times when the punishment deemed spanking as the result ( the crime and punishment matching ) and there was alternatives given as a choice to the child. some times the child chose the swats over the other punishments....... even thou, the other choices were lighter in severity.....

if a person tends to explode when a cup of milk gets spilled on the kitchen floor ( being tile and water proof ) and totally over react, (even yelling can be construed as child abuse..... demeaning....) then I would suggest that if you can not control your anger, you best not use spanking as a form of discipline, lest you punish out of anger vice love......

mike

[papasangel]

There is a major difference betweena spanking and a beating. Children today are being told in schools that their parents cannot touch them, let alone punish them for misbehavior. I know because when my children attended public school my oldest daughter challenged me on it one night. She had been very difficult the whole day and finally I said that if she persisted in her behavior I would have no choice but to spank her. She told me to go ahead and she would call social services to report me. After i picked up my jaw from the floor for her tirade I went to the phone and dialed the number myself. I got a very nice lady on the phone and asked her if she could answer my daughters question about spankings. Then I gave the phone to my daughter. There was a few minutes of hushed conversation and then my daughter turned around and handed me the phone. The lady asked if everything was ok and I said yes. She told me she told my daughter that as long as there weren't any bruises showing or marks that spanking was indeed a parental right. I thanked her very nicely put the phone on the hook and looked at my daughter. Any Questions? She meekly said No mam. And I had no trouble from her for the rest of the month.

Have I spanked? yes although I hurt more from doing it than the spanking did to the child. I don't like to spank. Iwas whipped with a belt when I was younger for any infraction or no infraction till my dad was talked to by a policeman. Then he limited it to when he was sober and in control of himself. Those lessons did stay with me through the years but not as a positive influence. I detest using physical force on a child and would rather find a more compatable way in dealing with the situation. But my children know that when I do resort to a spanking it is done in love, not in anger or on a power trip. I thank God its not necessary to do it often.

Footnote: When I went to school principles and teachers used belts to spank. You youngsters t hink you have it so hard today but back then going to the principals office did instill fear within hearts and minds. I think the hardest part was just before going in for punishment. You never knew how many "licks" you would get nor how hard.

[ColleenLovesMischief]

Better to have a rod to the childs backside then to see the child rot in prison. I fully believe in spanking my son for correction. When I was in elementary school they still used the paddel on us. A big paddle at that. The fear of it kept us quite good kids until we knew they outlawed it.

[Guest glorytothelord]

When my children were young, they were spanked if I thought

they needed correction. But we also explained why, in love, we

had punished them - always by hand.

What hurt one of my daughters most was, when she was a teenager, I told her she had to wait for her father to explain why she could not leave school after a letter came from her teacher. It wasn't punishment, just a straight order from Dad,

and it hurt !

Blessings,

Glory.