Im stunned

[Redwolf]

well with that explanation I can understand and appreciate what they are trying to do but the wording is more than a little wrong if the reaction of others is the same as AyinJade's and the same as my reaction would have been ....

I agree with you. They mean well, but the advertising is misleading and not the practice of Christians.

[Guest phipples]

Not that I am personally comfortable with the method chosed (I am not their "target market"), I have to wonder....

If you were able to be a 'fly on the wall' - how many people coming to Jesus through this site would it take in your own minds to justify the means? Would one soul won be enough? A hundred? Thousand?

Please - no one get offended! It's just a question to think about. Wouldn't this be one of those situations that God could use for His purpose anyway?

C.

[Redwolf]

Not that I am personally comfortable with the method chosed (I am not their "target market"), I have to wonder....

If you were able to be a 'fly on the wall' - how many people coming to Jesus through this site would it take in your own minds to justify the means? Would one soul won be enough? A hundred? Thousand?

Please - no one get offended! It's just a question to think about. Wouldn't this be one of those situations that God could use for His purpose anyway?

C.

We do, always, represent Jesus and must ask ourselves, always, what would HE do if HE were in this position. If the end justifies the means in one instance, does it not do the same in all others?

[Guest phipples]

Not that I am personally comfortable with the method chosed (I am not their "target market"), I have to wonder....

If you were able to be a 'fly on the wall' - how many people coming to Jesus through this site would it take in your own minds to justify the means? Would one soul won be enough? A hundred? Thousand?

Please - no one get offended! It's just a question to think about. Wouldn't this be one of those situations that God could use for His purpose anyway?

C.

We do, always, represent Jesus and must ask ourselves, always, what would HE do if HE were in this position. If the end justifies the means in one instance, does it not do the same in all others?

Hmmmm....see, my brain is cramping again.

You're right, of course, we are supposed to represent Jesus. And yes, my stomach twisted over the method chosen....but -

What WOULD Jesus do - if He were walking the earth in His ministry for the very first time, today - in the here and now. What tools would He use in this age of technology? We are not only called to fellowship with our own kind, so to speak - we are still called to witness to everyone. Jesus witnessed to the prostitutes and the tax collectors, and he was judged very harshly for it then. Could this not be viewed in the same light?

Again, it doesn't sit uber-naturally for me either...but, it's out there now and it seems the least I can do is pray that many people will have seeds planted/watered/come to Christ. As mentioned before, this is not a site aimed at believers. How bad would it tick satan off that one of his most powerful tools is being used against him!

C.

[Scarletprayers]

Romans 3:7

Someone might argue, If my falsehood enhances God''s truthfulness and so increases his glory, why am I still condemned as a sinner?

Sorry...............I think the above answers the "what would Jesus do today with our technology."

[Redwolf]

Not that I am personally comfortable with the method chosed (I am not their "target market"), I have to wonder....

If you were able to be a 'fly on the wall' - how many people coming to Jesus through this site would it take in your own minds to justify the means? Would one soul won be enough? A hundred? Thousand?

Please - no one get offended! It's just a question to think about. Wouldn't this be one of those situations that God could use for His purpose anyway?

C.

We do, always, represent Jesus and must ask ourselves, always, what would HE do if HE were in this position. If the end justifies the means in one instance, does it not do the same in all others?

Hmmmm....see, my brain is cramping again.

You're right, of course, we are supposed to represent Jesus. And yes, my stomach twisted over the method chosen....but -

What WOULD Jesus do - if He were walking the earth in His ministry for the very first time, today - in the here and now. What tools would He use in this age of technology? We are not only called to fellowship with our own kind, so to speak - we are still called to witness to everyone. Jesus witnessed to the prostitutes and the tax collectors, and he was judged very harshly for it then. Could this not be viewed in the same light?

Again, it doesn't sit uber-naturally for me either...but, it's out there now and it seems the least I can do is pray that many people will have seeds planted/watered/come to Christ. As mentioned before, this is not a site aimed at believers. How bad would it tick satan off that one of his most powerful tools is being used against him!

C.

By tools, do you mean deception? If HE were here today, regardless of how much knowledge has increased and men run to and fro, HIS morality applies for all throughout time. Not one jot or tittle will pass from it. We are to abstain from worldly practices, for it is enmity against God. In other words, HE will give us the ways and means to do it HIS way.

[Guest phipples]

Not that I am personally comfortable with the method chosed (I am not their "target market"), I have to wonder....

If you were able to be a 'fly on the wall' - how many people coming to Jesus through this site would it take in your own minds to justify the means? Would one soul won be enough? A hundred? Thousand?

Please - no one get offended! It's just a question to think about. Wouldn't this be one of those situations that God could use for His purpose anyway?

C.

We do, always, represent Jesus and must ask ourselves, always, what would HE do if HE were in this position. If the end justifies the means in one instance, does it not do the same in all others?

Hmmmm....see, my brain is cramping again.

You're right, of course, we are supposed to represent Jesus. And yes, my stomach twisted over the method chosen....but -

What WOULD Jesus do - if He were walking the earth in His ministry for the very first time, today - in the here and now. What tools would He use in this age of technology? We are not only called to fellowship with our own kind, so to speak - we are still called to witness to everyone. Jesus witnessed to the prostitutes and the tax collectors, and he was judged very harshly for it then. Could this not be viewed in the same light?

Again, it doesn't sit uber-naturally for me either...but, it's out there now and it seems the least I can do is pray that many people will have seeds planted/watered/come to Christ. As mentioned before, this is not a site aimed at believers. How bad would it tick satan off that one of his most powerful tools is being used against him!

C.

By tools, do you mean deception? If HE were here today, regardless of how much knowledge has increased and men run to and fro, HIS morality applies for all throughout time. Not one jot or tittle will pass from it. We are to abstain from worldly practices, for it is enmity against God. In other words, HE will give us the ways and means to do it HIS way.

I'm answering both you and SP here, because I'm new to WB and haven't quite figured out how to do multiple quotes yet.

It's clear that you don't agree with this tactic. Aside from that, what suggestions do you have for reaching this particular group? Assuming that the large portion of these folks are not believers - or even people who care on whit about God currently. I'm guessing most are so far into their lifestyle that searching for God is the furthest thing from their minds - how do we reach them?

I really liked dougmando's reply. The "accountability" program sounds like a great tool for those wanting to break free of the bondage. What could the developers do to make this site more acceptable to Christians not needing help in this area?

C.

[Redwolf]

Not that I am personally comfortable with the method chosed (I am not their "target market"), I have to wonder....

If you were able to be a 'fly on the wall' - how many people coming to Jesus through this site would it take in your own minds to justify the means? Would one soul won be enough? A hundred? Thousand?

Please - no one get offended! It's just a question to think about. Wouldn't this be one of those situations that God could use for His purpose anyway?

C.

We do, always, represent Jesus and must ask ourselves, always, what would HE do if HE were in this position. If the end justifies the means in one instance, does it not do the same in all others?

Hmmmm....see, my brain is cramping again.

You're right, of course, we are supposed to represent Jesus. And yes, my stomach twisted over the method chosen....but -

What WOULD Jesus do - if He were walking the earth in His ministry for the very first time, today - in the here and now. What tools would He use in this age of technology? We are not only called to fellowship with our own kind, so to speak - we are still called to witness to everyone. Jesus witnessed to the prostitutes and the tax collectors, and he was judged very harshly for it then. Could this not be viewed in the same light?

Again, it doesn't sit uber-naturally for me either...but, it's out there now and it seems the least I can do is pray that many people will have seeds planted/watered/come to Christ. As mentioned before, this is not a site aimed at believers. How bad would it tick satan off that one of his most powerful tools is being used against him!

C.

By tools, do you mean deception? If HE were here today, regardless of how much knowledge has increased and men run to and fro, HIS morality applies for all throughout time. Not one jot or tittle will pass from it. We are to abstain from worldly practices, for it is enmity against God. In other words, HE will give us the ways and means to do it HIS way.

I'm answering both you and SP here, because I'm new to WB and haven't quite figured out how to do multiple quotes yet.

It's clear that you don't agree with this tactic. Aside from that, what suggestions do you have for reaching this particular group? Assuming that the large portion of these folks are not believers - or even people who care on whit about God currently. I'm guessing most are so far into their lifestyle that searching for God is the furthest thing from their minds - how do we reach them?

I really liked dougmando's reply. The "accountability" program sounds like a great tool for those wanting to break free of the bondage. What could the developers do to make this site more acceptable to Christians not needing help in this area?

C.

The term 'Christian porn site' sets my teeth on edge. It is a slur against the holy name and purpose and sacrifice of our Saviour. Therefore, a clever mind moved by the HOLY SPIRIT, will come up with something reflecting the intent.

"Christ can help the porn addict'. Or, 'porn addicts helped by Christ'. Addiction is a difficult problem to address by people without the criteria to help. A referral system should be in place, to receive authentic counseling, etc. And then there is the little thingiie called "I want help". And that other little thingie called "Are we really after the porn-addicted Christian and is there such a thingie".

[WayneB]

Seriously though...

these guys have the right idea but are using a VERY wrong approach. As if the Kindom of God is glorified by being associated with porn.

I agree.

[Pizzaguy]

the porn-addicted Christian ... is there such a thingie.

Absolutely. Countless Christian men have become addicted to porn and later set free of it.

I am behind these guys 100%, but then, I am not one of those kind who wait around to be offended by everything I see.

Some of you would take shots at ANYTHING.