Harry Potter to be or not to be

[Questing One]

questioning one:

so, just because the intent of the author, publishers, and producers was harmless, ....

Witches think of witchcraft as harmless. We cant go by the world's standard of what is harmless, we need to go by God's word.

I fully agree with that but that still leaves you with judging another person because of the way she decided to portray the battle between good and evil. Can anyone actually give me a verse that has in it that we are not to delve into witchcraft or something along the lines of sorcery? It would make this whole conversation a little easier.

[Guest LadyC]

questioning one:

so, just because the intent of the author, publishers, and producers was harmless, that lends any movie or book (or at least specifically this series) more credibility than God's word on the subject?

bib, LOL, yes, i suppose the amish would be breaking rules being here.

of course sorcery isn't the only thing kids should be sheltered from. exactly the reason i expanded it to include movies with porn, or that portray sexual relationships. allowing children (and many people here do, even if you don't) to view movies that glorify witchcraft, however "innocent" it may seem, is no different than allowing them to watch brokeback mountain.

there are a few good quality programs on tv. but ya gotta pay the big bucks for cable, and even then you have to have a watchful eye.

Hold on, you are taking quite a leap there. You're going from an Author's choice to use what you call "witchcraft" to push the point of good and evil in the world, to what some misguided person decided to put on the internet. I fail to see the connection between the two. Sure, you may not approve of the way that J. K. Rowling wrote her books. However, comparing it to internet trash is going a little far. That would be like me having a problem with the Bible because i didn't like the way it fully expressed in detail the death of Jesus. (I have no intention of any blasphemy, just trying to prove a point)

no i'm not. i'm going from the idea that we can cave to worldly standards when they are in direct conflict with Biblical ones. is there a comparison between witchcraft and internet porn? let's see.... they both separate us from God. that's enough of a link for me.

for the record, i wasn't referring just to internet trash. all you have to do is look at any billboard, any magazine ad, most anything on television (including commercials) or any other form of media to be bombarded with blatant and ungodly sexual images.

[Guest LadyC]

questioning one:

so, just because the intent of the author, publishers, and producers was harmless, ....

Witches think of witchcraft as harmless. We cant go by the world's standard of what is harmless, we need to go by God's word.

I fully agree with that but that still leaves you with judging another person because of the way she decided to portray the battle between good and evil. Can anyone actually give me a verse that has in it that we are not to delve into witchcraft or something along the lines of sorcery? It would make this whole conversation a little easier.

questing one, of course we can give you scripture. let me eat dinner and if nobody has gotten back with you on this, i will.

are you honestly implying that you are totally unaware that the Bible specifically addresses this?

[Questing One]

questioning one:

so, just because the intent of the author, publishers, and producers was harmless, ....

Witches think of witchcraft as harmless. We cant go by the world's standard of what is harmless, we need to go by God's word.

I fully agree with that but that still leaves you with judging another person because of the way she decided to portray the battle between good and evil. Can anyone actually give me a verse that has in it that we are not to delve into witchcraft or something along the lines of sorcery? It would make this whole conversation a little easier.

questing one, of course we can give you scripture. let me eat dinner and if nobody has gotten back with you on this, i will.

are you honestly implying that you are totally unaware that the Bible specifically addresses this?

No, not at all, I'm saying that my mother has mentioned it but i have never really been able to find it in scripture. I'm just asking for a little nudge in the right direction

[Emily~Anne]

questioning one:

so, just because the intent of the author, publishers, and producers was harmless, that lends any movie or book (or at least specifically this series) more credibility than God's word on the subject?

bib, LOL, yes, i suppose the amish would be breaking rules being here.

of course sorcery isn't the only thing kids should be sheltered from. exactly the reason i expanded it to include movies with porn, or that portray sexual relationships. allowing children (and many people here do, even if you don't) to view movies that glorify witchcraft, however "innocent" it may seem, is no different than allowing them to watch brokeback mountain.

there are a few good quality programs on tv. but ya gotta pay the big bucks for cable, and even then you have to have a watchful eye.

Hold on, you are taking quite a leap there. You're going from an Author's choice to use what you call "witchcraft" to push the point of good and evil in the world, to what some misguided person decided to put on the internet. I fail to see the connection between the two. Sure, you may not approve of the way that J. K. Rowling wrote her books. However, comparing it to internet trash is going a little far. That would be like me having a problem with the Bible because i didn't like the way it fully expressed in detail the death of Jesus. (I have no intention of any blasphemy, just trying to prove a point)

The author herself also makes it clear that her books are intended to be an accurate portrayal of witchcraft. The author spent alot of time learning as much as possible about witchcraft to make sure the books accurately portrayed witchcraft.

[Scarletprayers]

questioning one:

so, just because the intent of the author, publishers, and producers was harmless, that lends any movie or book (or at least specifically this series) more credibility than God's word on the subject?

bib, LOL, yes, i suppose the amish would be breaking rules being here.

of course sorcery isn't the only thing kids should be sheltered from. exactly the reason i expanded it to include movies with porn, or that portray sexual relationships. allowing children (and many people here do, even if you don't) to view movies that glorify witchcraft, however "innocent" it may seem, is no different than allowing them to watch brokeback mountain.

there are a few good quality programs on tv. but ya gotta pay the big bucks for cable, and even then you have to have a watchful eye.

Hold on, you are taking quite a leap there. You're going from an Author's choice to use what you call "witchcraft" to push the point of good and evil in the world, to what some misguided person decided to put on the internet. I fail to see the connection between the two. Sure, you may not approve of the way that J. K. Rowling wrote her books. However, comparing it to internet trash is going a little far. That would be like me having a problem with the Bible because i didn't like the way it fully expressed in detail the death of Jesus. (I have no intention of any blasphemy, just trying to prove a point)

The author also makes it clear that his books are intended to be an accurate portrayal of witchcraft. The author spent alot of time learning as much as possible about witchcraft to make sure the books accurately portrayed witchcraft.

Emily Anne, I'm sorry but thats not true. First the author is a she not a he, and secondly I don't know who told you this but if you ever read the books or seen the movies there is absolutely NOTHING in the books even remotely resembling real witchcraft. Who ever told you that was not telling you the truth.

[Emily~Anne]

questioning one:

so, just because the intent of the author, publishers, and producers was harmless, that lends any movie or book (or at least specifically this series) more credibility than God's word on the subject?

bib, LOL, yes, i suppose the amish would be breaking rules being here.

of course sorcery isn't the only thing kids should be sheltered from. exactly the reason i expanded it to include movies with porn, or that portray sexual relationships. allowing children (and many people here do, even if you don't) to view movies that glorify witchcraft, however "innocent" it may seem, is no different than allowing them to watch brokeback mountain.

there are a few good quality programs on tv. but ya gotta pay the big bucks for cable, and even then you have to have a watchful eye.

Hold on, you are taking quite a leap there. You're going from an Author's choice to use what you call "witchcraft" to push the point of good and evil in the world, to what some misguided person decided to put on the internet. I fail to see the connection between the two. Sure, you may not approve of the way that J. K. Rowling wrote her books. However, comparing it to internet trash is going a little far. That would be like me having a problem with the Bible because i didn't like the way it fully expressed in detail the death of Jesus. (I have no intention of any blasphemy, just trying to prove a point)

The author also makes it clear that his books are intended to be an accurate portrayal of witchcraft. The author spent alot of time learning as much as possible about witchcraft to make sure the books accurately portrayed witchcraft.

Emily Anne, I'm sorry but thats not true. First the author is a she not a he, and secondly I don't know who told you this but if you ever read the books or seen the movies there is absolutely NOTHING in the books even remotely resembling real witchcraft. Who ever told you that was not telling you the truth.

I meant to say she, hence edited right away.

http://www.pacinst.com/witch.htm

So explain to me the benefit that so greatly surpasses the risk of teaching your children witchcraft that is presumably innocent?

[Scarletprayers]

questioning one:

so, just because the intent of the author, publishers, and producers was harmless, that lends any movie or book (or at least specifically this series) more credibility than God's word on the subject?

bib, LOL, yes, i suppose the amish would be breaking rules being here.

of course sorcery isn't the only thing kids should be sheltered from. exactly the reason i expanded it to include movies with porn, or that portray sexual relationships. allowing children (and many people here do, even if you don't) to view movies that glorify witchcraft, however "innocent" it may seem, is no different than allowing them to watch brokeback mountain.

there are a few good quality programs on tv. but ya gotta pay the big bucks for cable, and even then you have to have a watchful eye.

Hold on, you are taking quite a leap there. You're going from an Author's choice to use what you call "witchcraft" to push the point of good and evil in the world, to what some misguided person decided to put on the internet. I fail to see the connection between the two. Sure, you may not approve of the way that J. K. Rowling wrote her books. However, comparing it to internet trash is going a little far. That would be like me having a problem with the Bible because i didn't like the way it fully expressed in detail the death of Jesus. (I have no intention of any blasphemy, just trying to prove a point)

The author also makes it clear that his books are intended to be an accurate portrayal of witchcraft. The author spent alot of time learning as much as possible about witchcraft to make sure the books accurately portrayed witchcraft.

Emily Anne, I'm sorry but thats not true. First the author is a she not a he, and secondly I don't know who told you this but if you ever read the books or seen the movies there is absolutely NOTHING in the books even remotely resembling real witchcraft. Who ever told you that was not telling you the truth.

I meant to say she, hence edited right away.

http://www.pacinst.com/witch.htm

So explain to me the benefit that so greatly surpasses the risk of teaching your children witchcraft that is presumably innocent?

Nope, not getting into this again, I just saw where you had said he, and then the above and wanted you to know somebody was giving you incorrect information!

[Questing One]

questioning one:

so, just because the intent of the author, publishers, and producers was harmless, that lends any movie or book (or at least specifically this series) more credibility than God's word on the subject?

bib, LOL, yes, i suppose the amish would be breaking rules being here.

of course sorcery isn't the only thing kids should be sheltered from. exactly the reason i expanded it to include movies with porn, or that portray sexual relationships. allowing children (and many people here do, even if you don't) to view movies that glorify witchcraft, however "innocent" it may seem, is no different than allowing them to watch brokeback mountain.

there are a few good quality programs on tv. but ya gotta pay the big bucks for cable, and even then you have to have a watchful eye.

Hold on, you are taking quite a leap there. You're going from an Author's choice to use what you call "witchcraft" to push the point of good and evil in the world, to what some misguided person decided to put on the internet. I fail to see the connection between the two. Sure, you may not approve of the way that J. K. Rowling wrote her books. However, comparing it to internet trash is going a little far. That would be like me having a problem with the Bible because i didn't like the way it fully expressed in detail the death of Jesus. (I have no intention of any blasphemy, just trying to prove a point)

no i'm not. i'm going from the idea that we can cave to worldly standards when they are in direct conflict with Biblical ones. is there a comparison between witchcraft and internet porn? let's see.... they both separate us from God. that's enough of a link for me.

for the record, i wasn't referring just to internet trash. all you have to do is look at any billboard, any magazine ad, most anything on television (including commercials) or any other form of media to be bombarded with blatant and ungodly sexual images.

But are you just using that as a scape goat? Think of modern chemistry, that at the time when all this was written, could be considered witch craft. Anyone with an ability to do something outside the extent of what is considered normality is instantly considered evil. (not including Jesus but there are explanations for that reasoning) The mentality that you are currently giving it goes to that of medieval people. We had a large body toll during that time period because of witch hunts. What you are currently saying is that we condem a movie and book series because it just happens to conviently fall under a section of the Bible refering to witchcraft. I have a question about that though. Wasn't witchcraft meant to hurt people? If you look at it in that sense, then can't you also turn around and say that what Daniel Radcliffe's Character is portraying is the good side to something we fear and that the character of Voldemort is representing the evil side?

[ColleenLovesMischief]

Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.