Biblical Marriage

[Eliyahuw]

Shalom E,

Because G-d ordained it and WE are the church. We are to live by HIS standards. We are to obey the law of the land.

ohhh? what verse says that the church is required to preform marraiges?!

Nope, you're wrong. Read the Common Law marriage laws. They have restrictions and one of them is that the could WILL get a legal marriage at some point. And in the states where it is illegal, it is considered shacking up to live together without being legally married.

sorry but most of those states that common law marraiges are legal, you have to get a divorce to dissolve the common law marraige. All marraige certificates and such are all about is division of property.

Its good to know all adam and eve and ruth and boaz were shacking up! Well if thats shacking up then i'll follow what God ordained them to do since it was ok in his eyes that they did it that way.

I for the life of me can't find one instance where i have to go to a church to have this preformed!

How ridiculous. Adam and Eve were married by G-d. There was no such thing as a church then.

You don't have to go to a church, but you DO have to have a legal marriage to be legally married.

And my point is that the legal marraige is nothing more than a comittment between the two people withnessed by God. thats it. Same thing ruth and Boaz did. Hmm that was what about 3000 years after adam and eve too!

[Massorite]

Again what does the church have to do with marriage ceremonies. Nowhere in

thebible will you find a church officiating or preforming any marraige ceremony. so what does it have to do with marraige again??

Shalom E,

Because G-d ordained it and WE are the church. We are to live by HIS standards. We are to obey the law of the land.

doesn't negate the fact that its 100% legal and recognized in others. so since that is the case then, it is not necessary for a preacher, justice of peace or any governing authority to give permission for a couple to marry! That still reaffirms my position that the only thing necessary to have a marraige is man woman and God and a commitment between the two sealed by the two becoming one.

Nope, you're wrong. Read the Common Law marriage laws. They have restrictions and one of them is that the could WILL get a legal marriage at some point. And in the states where it is illegal, it is considered shacking up to live together without being legally married.

Its good to know all adam and eve and ruth and boaz were shacking up! Well if thats shacking up then i'll follow what God ordained them to do since it was ok in his eyes that they did it that way.

I for the life of me can't find one instance where i have to go to a church to have this preformed!

How ridiculous. Adam and Eve were married by G-d. There was no such thing as a church then.

You don't have to go to a church, but you DO have to have a legal marriage to be legally married.

YOU GO VICKILYNN. There is always going to be somebody who wants to justify sin by twisting the word of God. God was the only High Priest on earth at the time that Adam an Eve,s union was sanctified by God. While it is true that we don't have to have a church or a priest to get married we do have to have some sort of biblical recognition and according to the laws of our land, we do at the very least have to be married by a Justice of the Peace.

Ruth and Boaz got married according to Jewish custom which means that they had a marriage ceremony that was presided over by a Jewish priest. It would have been illegal to do otherwise according to Jewish law

Your arguement about God justifing living in sin sucks!

Be Blessed

Edited July 22, 2007 by Massorite

[Eliyahuw]

YOU GO VICKILYNN. There is always going to be somebody who wants to justify sin by twisting the word of God. God was the only High Priest on earth at the time that Adam an Eve were married. While it is true that we don't have to have a church or a priest to get married according to the laws of our land,we do at the very least have to be married by a Justice of the Peace.

Be Blessed

so is that all it takes? i am a priest under the lineage of christ as is every other christian. so i guess that means we can preform our own marraiges.

no i am not twisting, i am asking that the verses be shown that say we must be married by a church or judge or priest.

AND i have repeatedly said that all that is necessary is the comittment (covenant) is made between the couple and God.

Anything else is a contract between the government and the two parties involved.

[Massorite]

YOU GO VICKILYNN. There is always going to be somebody who wants to justify sin by twisting the word of God. God was the only High Priest on earth at the time that Adam an Eve were married. While it is true that we don't have to have a church or a priest to get married according to the laws of our land,we do at the very least have to be married by a Justice of the Peace.

Be Blessed

so is that all it takes? i am a priest under the lineage of christ as is every other christian. so i guess that means we can preform our own marraiges.

no i am not twisting, i am asking that the verses be shown that say we must be married by a church or judge or priest.

AND i have repeatedly said that all that is necessary is the comittment (covenant) is made between the couple and God.

Anything else is a contract between the government and the two parties involved.

You are correct about being a priest. Being a Christian qualifies you as a priest of sorts but only if there is not an Ordained priest readally available. I will do some research and see what I can find. The botton line is that if a marraige is not a God sanctified marraige it is an illegal marraige in the eyes of God.

[Scarletprayers]

YOU GO VICKILYNN. There is always going to be somebody who wants to justify sin by twisting the word of God. God was the only High Priest on earth at the time that Adam an Eve were married. While it is true that we don't have to have a church or a priest to get married according to the laws of our land,we do at the very least have to be married by a Justice of the Peace.

Be Blessed

so is that all it takes? i am a priest under the lineage of christ as is every other christian. so i guess that means we can preform our own marraiges.

no i am not twisting, i am asking that the verses be shown that say we must be married by a church or judge or priest.

AND i have repeatedly said that all that is necessary is the comittment (covenant) is made between the couple and God.

Anything else is a contract between the government and the two parties involved.

The Bible also tells us to obey the laws of the land.

[Eliyahuw]

You are correct about being a priest. Being a Christian qualifies you as a priest of sorts but only if there is not an Ordained priest readally available. I will do some research and see what I can find. The botton line is that if a marraige is not a God sanctified marraige it is an illegal marraige in the eyes of God.

I don't disagree. But no one has comeup with the verse that says that unless your married by a church or the jp your not married.

[Eliyahuw]

You are correct about being a priest. Being a Christian qualifies you as a priest of sorts but only if there is not an Ordained priest readally available. I will do some research and see what I can find. The botton line is that if a marraige is not a God sanctified marraige it is an illegal marraige in the eyes of God.

I don't disagree. But no one has comeup with the verse that says that unless your married by a church or the jp your not married.

[Eliyahuw]

YOU GO VICKILYNN. There is always going to be somebody who wants to justify sin by twisting the word of God. God was the only High Priest on earth at the time that Adam an Eve were married. While it is true that we don't have to have a church or a priest to get married according to the laws of our land,we do at the very least have to be married by a Justice of the Peace.

Be Blessed

so is that all it takes? i am a priest under the lineage of christ as is every other christian. so i guess that means we can preform our own marraiges.

no i am not twisting, i am asking that the verses be shown that say we must be married by a church or judge or priest.

AND i have repeatedly said that all that is necessary is the comittment (covenant) is made between the couple and God.

Anything else is a contract between the government and the two parties involved.

The Bible also tells us to obey the laws of the land.

i don't think that catchall verse is going to cover it. the law doesn't require us to be married to live together, have children, to comingle assets, or anything that marriage enjoys.

[Massorite]

YOU GO VICKILYNN. There is always going to be somebody who wants to justify sin by twisting the word of God. God was the only High Priest on earth at the time that Adam an Eve were married. While it is true that we don't have to have a church or a priest to get married according to the laws of our land,we do at the very least have to be married by a Justice of the Peace.

Be Blessed

so is that all it takes? i am a priest under the lineage of christ as is every other christian. so i guess that means we can preform our own marraiges.

no i am not twisting, i am asking that the verses be shown that say we must be married by a church or judge or priest.

AND i have repeatedly said that all that is necessary is the comittment (covenant) is made between the couple and God.

Anything else is a contract between the government and the two parties involved.

You are correct about being a priest. Being a Christian qualifies you as a priest of sorts but only if there is not an Ordained priest readally available. I will do some research and see what I can find. The botton line is that if a marraige is not a God sanctified marraige it is an illegal marraige in the eyes of God.

Well I guess you are correct after all. Biblically speaking marriage is a lifetime covenant between a man and a woman. A good gift God gave us is sex for the purpose of showing love to each other and procreation. Any sex out side of that commitment before or after is considered sin. The best that I can tell the bible says nothing about any physical marriage contract or any laws concerning the process to get married. However we are commanded to obey the laws of the land unless they are contrary to the laws of God and being married by a priest or a justice of the peace is not sin in the eyes of God or of men, but we should remember this. Even Jesus has a time when the Bride is gathered to Him, the marraige takes place and a marriage supper accures in celebration of the covenant marriage.

I stand corrected and I apologize for my insult.

Robert

[Eliyahuw]

YOU GO VICKILYNN. There is always going to be somebody who wants to justify sin by twisting the word of God. God was the only High Priest on earth at the time that Adam an Eve were married. While it is true that we don't have to have a church or a priest to get married according to the laws of our land,we do at the very least have to be married by a Justice of the Peace.

Be Blessed

so is that all it takes? i am a priest under the lineage of christ as is every other christian. so i guess that means we can preform our own marraiges.

no i am not twisting, i am asking that the verses be shown that say we must be married by a church or judge or priest.

AND i have repeatedly said that all that is necessary is the comittment (covenant) is made between the couple and God.

Anything else is a contract between the government and the two parties involved.

You are correct about being a priest. Being a Christian qualifies you as a priest of sorts but only if there is not an Ordained priest readally available. I will do some research and see what I can find. The botton line is that if a marraige is not a God sanctified marraige it is an illegal marraige in the eyes of God.

Well I guess you are correct after all. Biblically speaking marriage is a lifetime covenant between a man and a woman. A good gift God gave us is sex for the purpose of showing love to each other and procreation. Any sex out side of that commitment before or after is considered sin. The best that I can tell the bible says nothing about any physical marriage contract or any laws concerning the process to get married. However we are commanded to obey the laws of the land unless they are contrary to the laws of God and being married by a priest or a justice of the peace is not sin in the eyes of God or of men, but we should remember this. Even Jesus has a time when the Bride is gathered to Him, the marraige takes place and a marriage supper accures in celebration of the covenant marriage.

I stand corrected and I apologize for my insult.

Robert

Robert,

You did not insult me at all. I know we are to obey the laws of the land but look at the laws. the laws don't care whether or not were married by the JP or a church. The law only covers making a binding contract concerning assets and liabilities in that marraige. it doesn't care one whit whether or not we are making a convenant or comittment to each other beyond those two things.

According to the law of the land, you don't even have to be married to live together as married people. in fact the law of the land encourages us not to be married! It rewards us for not being married. For example, the marraige tax. if you cohabitate together, you aren't penalized in your tax returns with a lesser amount of deductions.

Also look at how it penalizes you if you are married and are in need of assistance.

So the law of the land isn't any guideline.