A couple of questions

[patricia1]

From hebrews beauty,

Just because someone is not a mainstream, conservative, or fundamental Christian, doesn't mean they are not Christian in their own right. My only point really is there are many different beliefs and views held by those who consider themselves Christians, and not all of those beliefs include the Trinity, etc. In answering the poster's question, I was trying to show that there is more than one point of view.

Of course there is more than one point of view, for non christians, but there is only one point of view of the truth for christians. Any one who does not believe that Jesus Christ is the living Son of the living God, who died and was risen again to enable the world to be reconciled back to the Father, is not a christian, and is not a christian fundamentalist. No one can be a christian in their own right. That strictly non bibical.

wow could not said it better myself.!!!!!!

[Vickilynn]

I said:

If someone does NOT believe Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of G-d and fully man and fully G-d, co-existing with G-d the Father and G-d the Holy Spirit, then they are NOT "Christians". One cannot deny the deity of the Christ and be a "Christian."

You said:

Just because someone is not a mainstream, conservative, or fundamental Christian, doesn't mean they are not Christian in their own right. My only point really is there are many different beliefs and views held by those who consider themselves Christians, and not all of those beliefs include the Trinity, etc. In answering the poster's question, I was trying to show that there is more than one point of view.

Shalom HB,

Sorry, but that is not the Biblical truth. You are not talking about different beliefs WITHIN Christianity, but you are describing NON-Christian beliefs and calling them Christian. 'Tis not so. One cannot, deny that Jesus is fully G-d and came to Earth as fully man, died on the Cross for our sins, rose again and now intercedes for us with the Father and still be considered a Christian.

If someone believes Jesus is not G-d, they are not Christians. It is a basic requirement of the faith. One is not a Christian unless they are saved. One is not saved unless they believe Jesus is G-d the Son and accept His forgiveness for their sins.

Romans 10

9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. 11For the Scripture says, "Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame."

No one who denies Jesus is G-d is a Christian in their own right.

[hebrews_beauty]

I said:

If someone does NOT believe Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of G-d and fully man and fully G-d, co-existing with G-d the Father and G-d the Holy Spirit, then they are NOT "Christians". One cannot deny the deity of the Christ and be a "Christian."

You said:

Just because someone is not a mainstream, conservative, or fundamental Christian, doesn't mean they are not Christian in their own right. My only point really is there are many different beliefs and views held by those who consider themselves Christians, and not all of those beliefs include the Trinity, etc. In answering the poster's question, I was trying to show that there is more than one point of view.

Shalom HB,

Sorry, but that is not the Biblical truth. You are not talking about different beliefs WITHIN Christianity, but you are describing NON-Christian beliefs and calling them Christian. 'Tis not so. One cannot, deny that Jesus is fully G-d and came to Earth as fully man, died on the Cross for our sins, rose again and now intercedes for us with the Father and still be considered a Christian.

If someone believes Jesus is not G-d, they are not Christians. It is a basic requirement of the faith. One is not a Christian unless they are saved. One is not saved unless they believe Jesus is G-d the Son and accept His forgiveness for their sins.

Romans 10

9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. 11For the Scripture says, "Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame."

No one who denies Jesus is G-d is a Christian in their own right.

Not all Christians agree on what "biblical truth" is---we'll have to agree to disagree.

[Matthitjah]

Grace to you,

HB,

Who do you say that Jesus Christ is?

Peace,

Dave