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I would like to ask, (if you are a Christian), are you completely at ease and morally at ease, with the website that PP offers teens? I really would like to post the link for other viewers here to see, but at the risk of a teen visiting it, I will not. (Needless to say, as a Christian, I am appalled by it.)

In His Love,

Suzanne

me too.... and i haven't even watched the video you just described in your next post. i did find this little gem, however.... a nugged of advice from their experts. :whistling:

How do I know that abstinence is the right choice for me?

Abstinence is right for different people at different times for different reasons. Only you can ultimately decide what is right for you and your body. Trust the messages that your mind and body give you.

and then there is another whole article encouraging teens to stand up and support abortion rights.

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oh, and another entire article about how DANGEROUS christian crisis pregnancy centers are.


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Response, in General: "First off thank you to LadyC, I will be renting that movie later.

Secondly in response to tsth, or Suzanne, yes I am a Christian. There is some ways that PP goes about certain things that does "rub me the wrong way" as it were. But at the same time, there are similar contradictions in religion and its leaders. I try to take the best points from both, as I would hope any one would. I have seen the video in question "Jim Dandy and His Very Gay Day" and honestly, I have to agree. Scientists have found there to be a "gay" gene. This pretty much means that being gay is biological. (pretty much because we have yet to find the part of us which unlocks this and sets sexual orientation.) I am not sure of what exactly the homo-sexual agenda is, and at this time would feel my time would be more mutually benificially used to answer questions you may have than to argue the nature of God or of man.

I do not feel that education is such an evil thing, much less appaulingly amoralistic. So sorry to paraphrase. I think if you were concerned about those who would be looking up the website in the first place you should try to establish another form of education. alot of churches open thier doors to hold public forums. gather up some teens and spread the word, if thats what you feel you need to do. We are only trying to help. We aren't trying to encourage or support this behaviour, only trying to help those who are already going in that direction (prevent them from causing harm to themselves or another.).

To clarify anything which might seem to be a contradiction in what I have said. I do not feel that sexual orientation is a choice, nor abortion a sin. to say that you are taking life seems odd to me. we were only considered to have life once we were given free will, a sentient form of thought. This is not present in an unborn child untill AFTER it would be to late to abort.

Thank you for the questions and thank you again for the movie recommendation LadyC."


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Dear Christian Parents,

You only need to look around at the site, to easily understand where PP stands in regard to teen promiscuity and the homosexual agenda. It is very clear.

Please be aware of what your teens are being exposed to and explain sexual issues from biblical perspectives and expose this agenda for what it is.

As I pondered this issue, I KNOW that teens are very aware of PP and it's services and function. I think that the parents need to be equally aware, thus I am posting the video link. Mods, you may judge whether or not parents should be alerted to what the organization is promoting:

http://www.teenwire.com/interactive/games/...-homosexual.php

Ephesians 5:3 But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God's holy people.

Ephesians 5:8 For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Live as children of light 9 (for the fruit of the light consists in all goodness, righteousness and truth) 10 and find out what pleases the Lord. 11 Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. 12 For it is shameful even to mention what the disobedient do in secret. 13 But everything exposed by the light becomes visible, 14 for it is light that makes everything visible. This is why it is said: "Wake up, O sleeper, rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you." 15 Be very careful, then, how you live--not as unwise but as wise, 16 making the most of every opportunity, because the days are evil.

In His Love,

Suzanne

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Scientists have found there to be a "gay" gene. This pretty much means that being gay is biological.
that is a lie. do some research instead of spewing what pp has trained you to believe. despite the years upon years of research, and the hundreds of thousands of dollars thrown into that research, scientists have NEVER found any evidence of a gay gene lurking in some people's DNA. furthermore, all the best they can come up with to support the theory is statistically insignificant data. statistically insignificant means it is less than half of one percent of the data accumulated.

you even contradict yourself by saying scientists have found some gay gene (which they haven't) and then going on to say they have yet to find the part of us that unlocks this orientation. hello! that means they haven't found a gene.

We are only trying to help. We aren't trying to encourage or support this behaviour, only trying to help those who are already going in that direction (prevent them from causing harm to themselves or another.).

i also read over another article on that site, explaining the three choices... and while offering information on adoption and on raising the child, they spun those with a negative slant, and spun abortion with a positive one.

so let's see... in general, PP spins abortion as positive, lies about the emotional affects statistics of those who have aborted (that was also in that article), tells teens to trust their minds and their bodies as to whether they should be abstinant, lies about scientific evidence regarding homosexuality, opposes any legislation that would make it mandatory to provide parental consent prior to an abortion, despite that it might endanger the life of the client, blatantly states that christian crisis pregnancy centers are dangerous, encourages teens to be proactive in standing up for abortion rights and even provides them with a list of ways they can become involved, they absolutely do not (according to the article about the christian centers) show ANY client ANY photos or films about what happens to the BABY during an abortion.... and i say baby because the term fetus is only used by people in reference to abortion or abortion rights, never by a person (even a pro-choice advocate) to refer to the pregnancy of a WANTED child....

and we're suppose to think this organization has our children's best interests at heart? baloney. they have their monetary bottom line at heart.

but your welcome for the movie reccomendation.


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A personal experience with PP.

patient;Hi, I need a pregnancy test, here is this mornings urine sample.

receptionist: ok, be right back.

receptionist; it's positive, youre pregnant.

receptionist; are you married?

patient; no

receptionist; well then you want us to get rid of it?

patient;of course NOT, what kind of people are you?

Patients storms out of office

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just thought i'd share another nugget. this one is from the main pp website, not from their teen site. but it is in the 'guide to teens and families':

Our sexuality should be enjoyed and celebrated. It is not something to be ashamed of or embarrassed about. Healthy sexuality allows us to be open, flexible, creative, safe, and responsible as we explore our sexual thoughts, feelings, and desires. It lets us recognize that sex can be fun and can also fulfill many emotional needs. Sex also has risks.

yes, our sexuality should be celebrated and enjoyed... within the confines of a marriage! NOT within the confines of a teenage romance. i bolded one sentence. i find it highly irresponsible to be telling teens that sex can be fun. sure it's fun, when it's with your spouse. but this sounds like they are encouraging recreational sex with the flavor of the month. and no, sex should never fulfill any emotional needs in and of itself. within a healthy marriage, it can fulfill emotional needs to an extent, but without a healthy marriage, the sex isn't going to fulfill anything. not to mention, a christian parent should be teaching their children that GOD fulfills ALL emotional needs. no sex required.

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BE, has your friend left the building? faced with the information provided from her employer's websites, i wouldn't blame her if she had. perhaps you should encourage her to take a position at one of those "dangerous" christian crisis pregnancy counseling centers where she can serve God without restrictions.


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I didn't read thru the whole thread. But your friend said he is a Christian? So how can he possibly justify working there?

Has he heard that Planned Parenthood is suing to strike down a Missouri abortion law? It's in the US News forum.

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