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Why are so many so eager to try to dig up dirt on anyone in the ministry? Is it because of insecurities in your own ministry or lives and digging up trash on other ministers feeds your ego and makes you feel better about your own little ministry or walk with God? I don't care for Paula White, but there could be other reasons why she and her husband divorced not mentioned in any of these articles. Some things just aren't any of anyone else's business. I guess if you think you are perfect, then you think you have the right to cast aspersions and stones as well. Better be prepared for God to judge you back the same way you pass your own judgement in case your marriage goes sour. It happens to the best of couples...

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Why are so many so eager to try to dig up dirt on anyone in the ministry? Is it because of insecurities in your own ministry or lives and digging up trash on other ministers feeds your ego and makes you feel better about your own little ministry or walk with God? I don't care for Paula White, but there could be other reasons why she and her husband divorced not mentioned in any of these articles. Some things just aren't any of anyone else's business. I guess if you think you are perfect, then you think you have the right to cast aspersions and stones as well. Better be prepared for God to judge you back the same way you pass your own judgement in case your marriage goes sour. It happens to the best of couples...

There are certain standards that people in leadership are supposed to meet up to. As such, I think it is legitimate to bring up the fact Paula White is getting a divorce, especially since she is not in her first marriage. What kind of example is she setting?

Besides, having your marriage go sour is not Biblical grounds for divorce. Jesus was never so casual when it came to this subject.

Paulas previous marraige was no as a christian I believe. Randy, her husband... helped her through many difficult times and healings so she can get to where God wanst her. She was given authority by those around her men and woman alike including her husband. Like I said we do not know what has happened and it is their own affairs. She may not want to reveal things to save her husband some grief from his behavior. Who knows.

I have taken care of plenty in the hospitals that things have been hidden, because the body can be cruel. We assume it is casual. We do not have all the facts. I speak as I would of anyone else here was divorcing.

A well known Pastor around my parts committed suicide. He was a loving caring man. Nobody actually knows why...It is a shame he felt he couldn't go to anyone.. Taught us all a lesson around here...

If reasons were casual then I would have scriptur to use. patricia


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A person being in leadership and in ministry is still not a valid excuse to go on a feeding frenzy. Acknowledging and warning are one thing; cutting down is another.

We are still called to pray for those in the body who have fallen into sin.

Unless you believe the Lord abdicated His judgment seat to you?

Dear Lord, open the eyes that are blind; save those doomed to die. In Jesus' name


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Why are so many so eager to try to dig up dirt on anyone in the ministry? Is it because of insecurities in your own ministry or lives and digging up trash on other ministers feeds your ego and makes you feel better about your own little ministry or walk with God? I don't care for Paula White, but there could be other reasons why she and her husband divorced not mentioned in any of these articles. Some things just aren't any of anyone else's business. I guess if you think you are perfect, then you think you have the right to cast aspersions and stones as well. Better be prepared for God to judge you back the same way you pass your own judgement in case your marriage goes sour. It happens to the best of couples...

There are certain standards that people in leadership are supposed to meet up to. As such, I think it is legitimate to bring up the fact Paula White is getting a divorce, especially since she is not in her first marriage. What kind of example is she setting?

Besides, having your marriage go sour is not Biblical grounds for divorce. Jesus was never so casual when it came to this subject.

She lives in a glass house and lives her life in the public, therefore it is proper to make comment on her situation. Pray for her, yes. Pray for her husband, yes. But even more we need to pray for the countless individuals she has influenced whose faith may be on the rocks because of this. Vickilynn called it: there is a price to pay for sidestepping G-d's order.

I don't think anybody is judging her; all we can do is make judgments based on her actions. As to her heart, only the Lord knows what's going on in there.


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Why are so many so eager to try to dig up dirt on anyone in the ministry? Is it because of insecurities in your own ministry or lives and digging up trash on other ministers feeds your ego and makes you feel better about your own little ministry or walk with God? I don't care for Paula White, but there could be other reasons why she and her husband divorced not mentioned in any of these articles. Some things just aren't any of anyone else's business. I guess if you think you are perfect, then you think you have the right to cast aspersions and stones as well. Better be prepared for God to judge you back the same way you pass your own judgement in case your marriage goes sour. It happens to the best of couples...

There are certain standards that people in leadership are supposed to meet up to. As such, I think it is legitimate to bring up the fact Paula White is getting a divorce, especially since she is not in her first marriage. What kind of example is she setting?

Besides, having your marriage go sour is not Biblical grounds for divorce. Jesus was never so casual when it came to this subject.

She lives in a glass house and lives her life in the public, therefore it is proper to make comment on her situation. Pray for her, yes. Pray for her husband, yes. But even more we need to pray for the countless individuals she has influenced whose faith may be on the rocks because of this . Vickilynn called it: there is a price to pay for sidestepping G-d's order.

I don't think anybody is judging her; all we can do is make judgments based on her actions. As to her heart, only the Lord knows what's going on in there.

I don't think that you can make the statement that the faith of people she has influenced may be on the rocks because of this. At least I wouldn't say that. Jesus was the only minister who taught us and who was without sin. Other than that everybody is taught Scripture from a sinner, so does that mean that once we realize that that our faith is also on the rocks? I don't think so either...


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Why are so many so eager to try to dig up dirt on anyone in the ministry? Is it because of insecurities in your own ministry or lives and digging up trash on other ministers feeds your ego and makes you feel better about your own little ministry or walk with God? I don't care for Paula White, but there could be other reasons why she and her husband divorced not mentioned in any of these articles. Some things just aren't any of anyone else's business. I guess if you think you are perfect, then you think you have the right to cast aspersions and stones as well. Better be prepared for God to judge you back the same way you pass your own judgement in case your marriage goes sour. It happens to the best of couples...

There are certain standards that people in leadership are supposed to meet up to. As such, I think it is legitimate to bring up the fact Paula White is getting a divorce, especially since she is not in her first marriage. What kind of example is she setting?

Besides, having your marriage go sour is not Biblical grounds for divorce. Jesus was never so casual when it came to this subject.

She lives in a glass house and lives her life in the public, therefore it is proper to make comment on her situation. Pray for her, yes. Pray for her husband, yes. But even more we need to pray for the countless individuals she has influenced whose faith may be on the rocks because of this . Vickilynn called it: there is a price to pay for sidestepping G-d's order.

I don't think anybody is judging her; all we can do is make judgments based on her actions. As to her heart, only the Lord knows what's going on in there.

I don't think that you can make the statement that the faith of people she has influenced may be on the rocks because of this. At least I wouldn't say that. Jesus was the only minister who taught us and who was without sin. Other than that everybody is taught Scripture from a sinner, so does that mean that once we realize that that our faith is also on the rocks? I don't think so either...

Shalom,

Matthew 18

5(G) "Whoever receives one such child in my name receives me, 6 but whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a great millstone fastened around his neck and to be drowned in the depth of the sea.

1 Timothy 2

12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

1 Timothy 6

Teach and urge these things. 3If anyone teaches a different doctrine and does not agree with the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ and the teaching that accords with godliness, 4 he is puffed up with conceit and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy craving for controversy and for quarrels about words, which produce envy, dissension, slander, evil suspicions, 5and constant friction among people who are depraved in mind and deprived of the truth, imagining that godliness is a means of gain.

6Now there is great gain in godliness with contentment, 7for we brought nothing into the world, and[c] we cannot take anything out of the world. 8But if we have food and clothing, with these we will be content. 9But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation, into a snare, into many senseless and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. 10For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils. It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pangs.


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Why are so many so eager to try to dig up dirt on anyone in the ministry? Is it because of insecurities in your own ministry or lives and digging up trash on other ministers feeds your ego and makes you feel better about your own little ministry or walk with God? I don't care for Paula White, but there could be other reasons why she and her husband divorced not mentioned in any of these articles. Some things just aren't any of anyone else's business. I guess if you think you are perfect, then you think you have the right to cast aspersions and stones as well. Better be prepared for God to judge you back the same way you pass your own judgement in case your marriage goes sour. It happens to the best of couples...

There are certain standards that people in leadership are supposed to meet up to. As such, I think it is legitimate to bring up the fact Paula White is getting a divorce, especially since she is not in her first marriage. What kind of example is she setting?

Besides, having your marriage go sour is not Biblical grounds for divorce. Jesus was never so casual when it came to this subject.

She lives in a glass house and lives her life in the public, therefore it is proper to make comment on her situation. Pray for her, yes. Pray for her husband, yes. But even more we need to pray for the countless individuals she has influenced whose faith may be on the rocks because of this . Vickilynn called it: there is a price to pay for sidestepping G-d's order.

I don't think anybody is judging her; all we can do is make judgments based on her actions. As to her heart, only the Lord knows what's going on in there.

I don't think that you can make the statement that the faith of people she has influenced may be on the rocks because of this. At least I wouldn't say that. Jesus was the only minister who taught us and who was without sin. Other than that everybody is taught Scripture from a sinner, so does that mean that once we realize that that our faith is also on the rocks? I don't think so either...

Shalom,

Matthew 18

5(G) "Whoever receives one such child in my name receives me, 6 but whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a great millstone fastened around his neck and to be drowned in the depth of the sea.

1 Timothy 2

12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

1 Timothy 6

Teach and urge these things. 3If anyone teaches a different doctrine and does not agree with the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ and the teaching that accords with godliness, 4 he is puffed up with conceit and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy craving for controversy and for quarrels about words, which produce envy, dissension, slander, evil suspicions, 5and constant friction among people who are depraved in mind and deprived of the truth, imagining that godliness is a means of gain.

6Now there is great gain in godliness with contentment, 7for we brought nothing into the world, and[c] we cannot take anything out of the world. 8But if we have food and clothing, with these we will be content. 9But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation, into a snare, into many senseless and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. 10For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils. It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pangs.

Were not talking about her. I don't particularly like her or trust her. But I believe people have come to know Christ from her influence. But to say that their faith is on the rocks does not give justice to the Power of the Word of God...

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I don't think anybody is judging her; all we can do is make judgments based on her actions.

I disagree. I have been checking in on this thread and it's 90% guile. Gossip is character assassination and the root of that is a desire to "kill" someone's character. We can discuss the disapointment of divorce without mentioning Paula White. We can discuss greed in the pulpit separate from someone's marriage falling apart. We could be looking for answers instead of pointing fingers.

This gossip is at least as bad as anything she is being accused of...maybe worse. Again, I believe our only reasonable response is to pray for her and her husband to be reconciled.

I assume that she is a believer and since that is the case, the Holy Spirit can do the impossible and perhaps they will listen? All of us have gone our own way before but few of us have our lives so publicly scrutinized. She needs mercy. She needs brothers/sisters to counsel her in love...not point a judgemental finger.

Blindness to our own "mistakes" can happen to any of us. I would hope that my brothers/sisters would approach me in humility and grace to restore me if I fell in such a public way.

Does anyone think she is enjoying this?


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I don't think anybody is judging her; all we can do is make judgments based on her actions.

I disagree. I have been checking in on this thread and it's 90% guile. Gossip is character assassination and the root of that is a desire to "kill" someone's character. We can discuss the disapointment of divorce without mentioning Paula White. We can discuss greed in the pulpit separate from someone's marriage falling apart. We could be looking for answers instead of pointing fingers.

This gossip is at least as bad as anything she is being accused of...maybe worse. Again, I believe our only reasonable response is to pray for her and her husband to be reconciled.

I assume that she is a believer and since that is the case, the Holy Spirit can do the impossible and perhaps they will listen? All of us have gone our own way before but few of us have our lives so publicly scrutinized. She needs mercy. She needs brothers/sisters to counsel her in love...not point a judgemental finger.

Blindness to our own "mistakes" can happen to any of us. I would hope that my brothers/sisters would approach me in humility and grace to restore me if I fell in such a public way.

Does anyone think she is enjoying this?

Gossip?? Her second divorce isn't gossip, it's fact.

She's a public figure; she thinks nothing of writing books and conducting seminars about having a good marriage and a successful Christian life. If you are going to teach the stuff, you need to live it.

Not many of you should presume to be teachers, my brothers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly. James 3:1

For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God 1 Pet 4:17


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Were not talking about her. I don't particularly like her or trust her. But I believe people have come to know Christ from her influence. But to say that their faith is on the rocks does not give justice to the Power of the Word of God...

First of all, I agree. G-d can use anybody or anything for His glory. People like her remind of what Paul wrote:

The latter do so in love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel. The former preach Christ out of selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing that they can stir up trouble for me while I am in chains. But what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice. Phil. 1:16-18

But, second, we can't know how many of these people came to the Lord because of who she is--a celebrity in the Christian world. Some people's faith is tenuous at best, especially immature believers whose faith more or less depends on their "inspiration" of the moment. To suggest otherwise is to ignore human nature. And when a conversion doesn't stick for whatever reason, that person's heart is hardened to the point where a rededication to the Lord is that much more difficult for them.

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