What is it like to be jewish?

[nebula]

Hey Neb,

I didnt know you were an okie , My wife is an Okie, she is from boynton in Muskogee County.

Ooops! Think there was a misunderstanding there. I'm a Marylander.

[JesusisGod2]

Hey Neb,

I didnt know you were an okie , My wife is an Okie, she is from boynton in Muskogee County.

Ooops! Think there was a misunderstanding there. I'm a Marylander.

Well now, That explains why I didnt know that :sweating: Um, ah

JIG2 scoots out back door in cognito

[ginakay]

Shilo, I can see that this was written a few months ago but I am just now reading what it was like for you to grow up Jewish. It is sad to think any young person would be treated so shabbily. It is heartbreaking to think of a young person going across the stage for their diploma and not getting the handclap that is offered to the others and all the other disrespect that was shown. I know it does no good for me to say how sorry I am for all that.

I never knew any Jewish people when I was in that age group, I don't believe there were any who lived in our small town. Of course I would like to think that I (and others I knew) would not have treated a Jewish person in the way you were treated. We did have discussions about the way Jews were treated in Nazi Germany and everyone was amazed at it. I felt the same way. I read Exodus and the Mila 18 and some other books that left me feeling like the early Zionists were heroes.

I had to edit this, my spelling was awful in places!

[simplejeff]

On March 29, 2004 at 5:11 PM, ginakay said:

Shilo, I can see that this was written a few months ago but I am just now reading what it was like for you to grow up Jewish. It is sad to think any young person would be treated so shabbily. It is heartbreaking to think of a young person going across the stage for their diploma and not getting the handclap that is offered to the others and all the other disrespect that was shown. I know it does no good for me to say how sorry I am for all that.

144 months plus.    Anti-semitism still growing and getting much worse all over the world, practically everywhere.

On February 27, 2004 at 9:02 AM, WayneB said:

It weighed heavy on me the first time I read it too.

 

It helped me understand and appreciate Shiloh much more than I did prior. Good idea to post it on a new thread YOD.

 

Bless you brothers,

Wayne

On February 27, 2004 at 5:57 AM, Guest yod said:

 

I'm not jewish but this was posted by a jewish believer on these boards. Some of you know him as Shilo. I thought this was too important to be hidden at the bottom of another thread.

Read 'em and weep...

I was called "Christkiller" by "Christian" students in highschool. I was cruelly knicknamed "Jewdas." That was an intentional misspelling on their part. It was meant to imply that Judas, who betrayed Jesus, was an example of a typical Jew. I had to eat lunch alone, and no one would let me sit with them on the school bus. I had to sit on my trumpet case in the aisle. No one wanted to be friends with Jewdas. I was the brunt of jokes on an almost daily basis, and did not get to go to any homecomings or my senior prom. I got beat up twice for asking a girl out on a date. They were not dating anyone else, but I was still not allowed to ask. These were not "neo-Nazi" people. These were Baptist kids who went on mission trips and were regular church attenders. They had every ear-mark of Christianity. When I went to the school authorities about it, it just made it worse, because then the persecution just moved off campus. It was a miserable four years. I remember my graduation, and everytime someone would walk across the stage, everyone would clap. Not so with me. I walked across the stage to get my diploma, and the place was silent. My parents were so embarrassed.

 

I was saved after I turned 18. Even after I was saved I was labeled a "Christian Jew." I was not a fullfledged Christian, in their eyes. Their opinions was, "well even if you ARE a Christian, you are still a Jew." So the derision was still there.

I could not shake it. I live in a rural area, what you might call "hickville." People around here are not known for being the brightest around.

 

Don't kid yourselves. Anti-Semistism is alive, and the old "Christkiller" canard has not died out. It is in the modern world, and is being expressed by Christians today. Even those Christians who lived in during WWII, were indifferent to Jewish suffering. Most of the Christian world was silent concerning Hitler's madness. That silence irrevocably cut the lines of communication with the Jewish people. That silence has been interpreted as approval. I did not get saved because any Christian was showed me the love of Christ. Most didn't care if I got saved or not, and some almost resented it. I got saved because another Jewish believer who understood my situation reached out to me. The church would never have been able to reach me.

 

Christians turn a blind eye to the sin of anti-Semitism in their midst, and then wonder why Jews do not want to get saved. It is important for Christians to realize that Jews of today have a different mindset than the Jews of the 1st century. Jewish rejection of Jesus today, has less to to with Jesus and more to do with Christians. To become a Christian is, to Jews, an act of treason. It amounts to siding with those who have persecuted our people for century. Modern Jews are not resisting Christ, they are resisting Christanity. That is hard for some people to believe. It is the truth, though. I am living proof of that.

 

[Guest]

And on and on...the finger pointing continues. History repeats recycling itself from each side.

[Gargamel Bojangles]

anti Semite Christians??  hmmm,,,i seem to recall a certain Jewish man named Jesus....

[simplejeff]

Are you surprised ? 

10 minutes ago, Gargamel Bojangles said:

anti Semite Christians??  hmmm,,,i seem to recall a certain Jewish man named Jesus....

 

[Gargamel Bojangles]

I never encourage mean or hateful words towards anyone who believes differently.. this is not Christ like

[simplejeff]

Who said it is or was ?  Are you surprised the world is opposed to Christ entirely ? 

And were you surprised so many / so much of christendom is/was anti-semite ? 

[Guest]

On ‎2‎/‎27‎/‎2004 at 7:50 AM, Guest idolsmasher said:

But I think it also begs the question, how much is too much and when do you let things go and forgive so that you are not consummed by the whole thing. I think probably just about everyone has things from their past that could cause them to be bitter but I don't think that's the Lord's solution. Bitterness is a pretty destructive force. I think anger and bitterness can really hinder a person's growth in the Lord and it's not good to dwell on past hurts.

I see a valid point here, but would put it another way. The Evil, or wrong done by one group, becomes the platform for evil to be performed by another group. It just keeps repeating itself, depending upon which group is on top at each period of time. An example....

The wicked rulers among the Jews, of the sect of the Pharisees were instrumental in dividing Jews from the assembly of Christ.

The exemption given Jews by the roman government was no longer afforded by those which were deemed Christian. They were therefore left without this protection as a distinct religion under Roman rule. These rulers added a curse to be pronounced in the synagogues so as to keep believing Jews out of the Jewish assembly.

This in turn gave opportunity for the wicked in the assembly of Christ to do likewise later on when Christianity became legal.

Today, all we seem to hear is it is the Church which caused Jews to reject Christ. So the tide is turning again. We hear how the Church councils were by design to separate from anything Jewish.

I think it would be more accurate to say, the early Church was separated from anything Pharisaic Rabbinic, which came out of post temple abuses. Yet Those desiring to take advantage of these things for the harm of others and hatred did in turn the same thing.

It is just a vicious circle.