Religion?

[Tari]

After going through the rejoining process, plus learning about many other religions I wanted to do something to help. I mailed all the dioceses all across the country just in a simple letter. I also mailed some seminaries, EWTN etc... In my letter I wrote well I have had a miracle and been touched by God in my life. I emphasized that they needed to have the discipleship and support back for people in their life through the church. Anyway it was a beautiful letter. The ONLY, out of hundreds of mailings, the only response I got back was from the Priests for Life with 6 brochures on why I should not get an abortion. Well, I have never thought of such a thing. I just thought I could help them to try to look at a problem of not supporting people who support you back period. That was very heartbreaking, (1 response) and that was it! That happened 8 months ago. Now I don't really care how busy their offices may be.

[Tari]

After going through the rejoining process, plus learning about many other religions I wanted to do something to help. I mailed all the dioceses all across the country just in a simple letter. I also mailed some seminaries, EWTN etc... In my letter I wrote well I have had a miracle and been touched by God in my life. I emphasized that they needed to have the discipleship and support back for people in their life through the church. Anyway it was a beautiful letter. The ONLY, out of hundreds of mailings, the only response I got back was from the Priests for Life with 6 brochures on why I should not get an abortion. Well, I have never thought of such a thing. I just thought I could help them to try to look at a problem of not supporting people who support you back period. That was very heartbreaking, (1 response) and that was it! That happened 8 months ago. Now I don't really care how busy their offices may be.

Sorry, but why would they attack an issue like abortion when they Do Not support or evangalize to people in this life. Just because they have their own routine down, are they putting themselves above others? It amazes me because their own food and shelter were always taken care of, plus a fine salary WOW! We are not here to judge but ONLY evil behavior.

[damo1]

damo1

high tari

i hear what you are saying as i had this same problem when i was a young christian and i also noticed this in how i was searching and trying to understand what christ did for me on the cross

the youth center i use to help out at we had this one group that was very warped and i hated getting into biblical arguments but i got sick and tired of them preaching fire and brime stone to the youth that i was reaching out to with the other christians from diffrent denominations with in canberra and i also use to go in a gay bar and we would wittnes to the gay men what puzzled me is the cathlic priests i would also see in this gay bar in canberra and their wear sevral gay priests on the dance floor in their uniform

also wear i use to work in kings cross as a bouncer in sevral of the strip clubs this also happend to wear some priests would come in pay for a girl and then come down stairs and try to preach gods word to us bouncers and the managers this use to get up my nose

as i accepted christ into my life and as i read and as i asked the holy spirit to open up the truth of gods living word to me i would often run into some warped christians who would almost try to plant seeds of doubt to wear they try to make you question what ever christ has done in your life some would even say miracles that hapen in a persons life are fake god does not heal people god does not set people free like his son did when jesus was walking this earth

and when i would openly challange these flakes as i cal them i would get nothing but bible verses thrown at me as i depended on the holy spirit i would soon see their true colors and i learnt how to deal with them as some like to hide behind the bible versee they them selves have studied most wil also sift to what is right for them and leave the rest out

yet as i asked i got a little bit wise as i wanted to know how to deal with these flakes by linning it up with gods word

some can not even say jesus is lord over my life i am in recovery and i have a list to wear jesus has heald me and blessed me as i am of the streets i am an x street kid what i have know is of jesus and it just blows me away to how some can be so negative when it comes to what jesus did for us on the cross

i have no fear when it comes to standing up for this gospel as his blood was shed on the cross for us jesus did what no man could do and when ever i come across an unstable person who has nothing better to do than tarnish this bible i hold so close to my heart and belive in everything that is said i wil say something

you seem to think like me dont let no one turn you off but just keep your eyes on jesus he wil never let you down he has given us the holy spirit to guide us while we are alive on this earth and the holy spirit wil give us words to say and he wil guide us threw the bible if we fully trust him and alow him to have ful control in our lives

god bless from your brother in the lord damien stipic

[Tari]

Gotcha, and why were we suppose to give all that we have away, all that we have? It was not to end up homeless eating worms. Do you know what I'm saying?

[Tari]

Do you remember the movie THE JERK, well he was Forced to give it all away. But, he had a FAMILY who loved him. And they came to get him in desperate times. Well, that's just a whatever. My point is my neighbor from my hometown, who is one of the best friends I have ever had. She is 80 years old now. She went to the same church as I, which is a school also, her whole life. She lives 3 blocks away and has a hard time walking. She walks to mass the same time it is getting ready to start every Sunday. See I live 2000 miles away, and have for years. Nobody out of hundreds of people every week on their way to mass, Nobody ever stops to ask her for a ride. My God, your talking Ice, sleet, and snow weather. She has not drove for years, she has to walk. Helloooooooo is something wrong with this picture? And she is one of the sweetest people you could ever meet. WOW!

[Trusting Jesus]

Hmmm....I think I see what you are saying. I don't know why you didn't get many replies to your letter. The New Testament, first century church need to help each other out, and that is why they sold their possessions and helped each other. Today we don't have those same problems....at least yet. Men and women today can work. If you are a Christian you can get a job. In the early church there was much prejudice against the Christians and women normally did not go outside of the home and earn a living. There were some exceptions, but for the most part woment took care of the home.

Today, everyone can get a job, so we don't see the church needing to support a widow the way the needed to in the past. Although the church (meaning the congregation) needs to see when there is a real need in someones life and help. You talk about abortion. Well, that's tough. Abortion is murder. Usually that baby was created because of sexual intercourse outside of marriage, which also is a sin. Can a person who has done these things be forgiven? Absolutely. If a person is considering an abortion, it is better to give that little person up for adoption rather than opt to take that persons life. Should the church turn their back on a woman who has had an abortion....no. If that woman chooses to raise the child alone, the church needs to help all they can. A person must take responsibility for their own actions -- their sins. God loves us all even though we all sin, but sin always has consequences. So maybe the Priests for Life were just responding to your letter with their own outreach letters in case you know someone who is considering abortion. There are many churches that do minister to women who are having problems. Maybe you should look for a church which is supporting an outreach like that and help them.

You said you had a miracle and were touch by God. That's exciting! Do you want to share your experience?

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Nathele

[Tari]

It is more important to read you Bible and find a church which follows God's word. If you don't see something in the New Testament then it is not following God's word. I don't see the Roman Catholic Church as following God's word as closely as they should - we don't see praying to "saints", Mary was blessed among women but not a co-redemptor, there was none of the pomp and circumstance in the early church or in Christ's life. So I think you are wise to read your Bible and see what it says. The Christians who we see in Acts where brave people. They were mostly Jews who embraced this new idea and by rejecting their Jewish roots they were outcasts. If they didn't support each other then they would have been in big trouble. So by selling their possessions and all sharing they were all able to survive. Should we do this today? Well, we don't have the same problems. Men and women work, and you aren't shunned for being a Christian (or at least not yet). Most churches have a pantry or a benevolent fund to meet special needs - an illness or a fire. In fact, the church I attend just took up a special "love" offering on Sunday for a family whose home had burned to the ground.

So I would encourage you to keep reading your Bible and try to find a church in your area that is Bible based and Christ centered.

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Nathele

Nathele,

Thankyou very much for your responses. They made a lot of mistakes over time. No God the Almighty does not have a mama. But obviously He created Mary, and if He The Almighty God were to have a mama she would be similar? Why were people crying so hard for that over time? I am just fine in my life. Just taking a look at over time and the crucial mistakes that have hurt others.

[Tari]

It is more important to read you Bible and find a church which follows God's word. If you don't see something in the New Testament then it is not following God's word. I don't see the Roman Catholic Church as following God's word as closely as they should - we don't see praying to "saints", Mary was blessed among women but not a co-redemptor, there was none of the pomp and circumstance in the early church or in Christ's life. So I think you are wise to read your Bible and see what it says. The Christians who we see in Acts where brave people. They were mostly Jews who embraced this new idea and by rejecting their Jewish roots they were outcasts. If they didn't support each other then they would have been in big trouble. So by selling their possessions and all sharing they were all able to survive. Should we do this today? Well, we don't have the same problems. Men and women work, and you aren't shunned for being a Christian (or at least not yet). Most churches have a pantry or a benevolent fund to meet special needs - an illness or a fire. In fact, the church I attend just took up a special "love" offering on Sunday for a family whose home had burned to the ground.

So I would encourage you to keep reading your Bible and try to find a church in your area that is Bible based and Christ centered.

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Sweetheart, I would never bash you for your beliefs whatsoever. No, and I am not trying to judge anything in the wrong way. Your responses have helped with trying to understand. It's just that all the resourses are running out. Greed has taken over, animals and forests are going extinct. There are sooooo many people who Love the Almighty God and the Lord Jesus, and they would love to help. Now when my church itself can utilize millions of tons of unnecessary paper, ALL unecessarialy, all for waste. How many years did it take that tree to grow? NO, I am not going into the subject of enviromentalism. The church, if it cared over time would have cared for All that God gives for life. If we did not have our lives slimmed up with everything we do not need, And possibly had some ounces of what we do need, it would be much better. People over time would have suffered much much less just to live with what they truly need. Now you have to remember it was not that long ago, in our grandparents generation that there, over thousands of years, was no electricity, or running water. It was sooooo extremely hard for a human to survive, but they were tough. And they survived, and here we are. Those poeple were sooooooooo much stronger in survival ways than we are today. Wanting better for your children is why we are where we are. There was a lot of blood shed to live like we do today. Read the origination of this thread to understand the church failed the people to care for them at all in their existence. When I see third world countries, and all the children running around and playing together? Do they have shelter, food, people and some togetherness? Yes in certain circumstances they do. Some of the leaders are sooo corrupt. But When they have the togetherness, food, and shelter everything is fine. The thing is Christ came here to give and show the whole spiritual togetherness of this life and to really be able to live. The thing is that the church failed.

[Grungekid]

You are in Missouri? Well, over here in Los Angeles, I am constantly persecuted for being a follower of Christ. It's insane! I was originally born in IL and lived in PA for awhile with my family. Over there, I wasn't really EVER bashed for my beliefs.

Come to Idaho.

Sweetheart, I would never bash you for your beliefs whatsoever. No, and I am not trying to judge anything in the wrong way. Your responses have helped with trying to understand. It's just that all the resourses are running out. Greed has taken over, animals and forests are going extinct. There are sooooo many people who Love the Almighty God and the Lord Jesus, and they would love to help. Now when my church itself can utilize millions of tons of unnecessary paper, ALL unecessarialy, all for waste. How many years did it take that tree to grow? NO, I am not going into the subject of enviromentalism. The church, if it cared over time would have cared for All that God gives for life. If we did not have our lives slimmed up with everything we do not need, And possibly had some ounces of what we do need, it would be much better.

Enironmentalism isn't a sin in any way, and in any case, you're head on. We as Christians should take to heart God's command to Adam to care for the Earth.

[Trusting Jesus]

It is heart-breaking to see the poverty in which some people live. Even in "civilized" countries we have horrible poverty. The church is people. It's not a corporation, but people like you and me. We are the body of Christ. The Great Commission was to spread the Gospel to all nations an I believe that Christians have been doing that. There have been many great missionaries in the past and there are many people in the mission field today. The main objective is to spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ. You mention how many trees have been cut down in order to make paper, and it does seem like our forests are being cut down quickly. But remember that God gave us resourcs. In many cases when trees are cut down, the land is cleared and then the trees are replanted. It take years for them to grow to a size to cut again, but they are being replaced.

JamiLea - I grew up in California, then moved to Oregon, then for the last 3 years in Missouri. I was really glad to move from California, but I miss Oregon (the coast) very much. I was surprised to find that the Bible Belt isn't as....shall we say Conservative as I had hoped! I think that we are soon to see much more persecution in this good ol' USA. But, wherever we are we need to stand firm in our love for Jesus.

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Nathele