tectonic plate Theory

[MorningGlory]

Since that comment followed a post from me----it is not my life's mission to "prove" there is no God. But Christian's who use AiG or similar sites as a basis for their science do themselves no good service. AiG is not science, it tends to misrepresent and is often simple fraudulent. AiG and its ilk do spend a great deal of effort attacking real science, especially evolution, but do little or nothing to provide evidence to support their side. The reason for that is pretty basic. There is no science on AiG's side. AiG is admittedly a theological construct, not scientific.

So why the endless challenge to the Christian status quo? Why do you get all sideways about what we believe? You should just go about your nonbeliever's business and enjoy your life because you're never going to make a dent in true believers. If you didn't want to challenge the existence of God...you wouldn't be here.

To be fair, I haven't seen Jukia challenge the existence of God explicitly (he may have done so, but I haven't seen it) or try to convince anyone that God does not exist. All I have seen Jukia doing is challenging Young Earth Creationism.

By challenging a literal Genesis, as put forth in the Bible, jukia is denying Creation by the Almighty. What do you think he's trying to do here??? Let me give you a hint; he's not here to sell Girl Scout cookies.

[WillingToDie]

Since that comment followed a post from me----it is not my life's mission to "prove" there is no God. But Christian's who use AiG or similar sites as a basis for their science do themselves no good service. AiG is not science, it tends to misrepresent and is often simple fraudulent. AiG and its ilk do spend a great deal of effort attacking real science, especially evolution, but do little or nothing to provide evidence to support their side. The reason for that is pretty basic. There is no science on AiG's side. AiG is admittedly a theological construct, not scientific.

So why the endless challenge to the Christian status quo? Why do you get all sideways about what we believe? You should just go about your nonbeliever's business and enjoy your life because you're never going to make a dent in true believers. If you didn't want to challenge the existence of God...you wouldn't be here.

To be fair, I haven't seen Jukia challenge the existence of God explicitly (he may have done so, but I haven't seen it) or try to convince anyone that God does not exist. All I have seen Jukia doing is challenging Young Earth Creationism.

By challenging a literal Genesis, as put forth in the Bible, jukia is denying Creation by the Almighty. What do you think he's trying to do here??? Let me give you a hint; he's not here to sell Girl Scout cookies.

I take issue with your assertion that anybody who does not take Genesis literally is actively denying God as Creator.

[The Lorax]

Me too.

[MorningGlory]

The general consensus of the thread so far is precisely what Jukia's point here is, so either concede the point or post on my thread.

No. I will disagree with Jukia here. Don't know about everyone else.

[MorningGlory]

I take issue with your assertion that anybody who does not take Genesis literally is actively denying God as Creator.

Genesis describes the Creation by the Almighty...literally. Anyone who asserts otherwise is, therefore, denying that God is the Creator. You may take issue, if you like, but it changes nothing.

[WillingToDie]

I take issue with your assertion that anybody who does not take Genesis literally is actively denying God as Creator.

Genesis describes the Creation by the Almighty...literally. Anyone who asserts otherwise is, therefore, denying that God is the Creator. You may take issue, if you like, but it changes nothing.

Wow. OK, let's try this again: there are plenty of Christians out there who do not hold to a literal reading of Genesis, yet I don't know a single one who would deny God as Creator. Your view is...an incredibly narrow view of what God the Creator means.

[MorningGlory]

I take issue with your assertion that anybody who does not take Genesis literally is actively denying God as Creator.

Genesis describes the Creation by the Almighty...literally. Anyone who asserts otherwise is, therefore, denying that God is the Creator. You may take issue, if you like, but it changes nothing.

You are correct in stating that taking issue with the standard fundamentalist literal take on Genesis changes nothing. A belief in a literal Genesis flys in the face of the real world evidence. It did not happen that way, therefore, your belief changes nothing.

It strikes me that to believe in a literal Genesis causes you to believe in a dishonest God. If God created everything he left it in such a state that his creation with the ability to reason and figure things out is left with no choice but to conclude that Genesis cannot be literal. So if God did it in 6 days just a few thousand years ago the clues he left lead one to believe otherwise. Therefore a bit of trickery.

No offense, jukia, but your atheist views fly in the face of unshakable faith. My beliefs, and those of billions like me, have guided the course of history for over two thousand years. You don't really believe that evolutionists are going to make much difference when that last day comes; do you???? You should come to know your Creator, jukia. After all, He knows you.

[MorningGlory]

I take issue with your assertion that anybody who does not take Genesis literally is actively denying God as Creator.

Genesis describes the Creation by the Almighty...literally. Anyone who asserts otherwise is, therefore, denying that God is the Creator. You may take issue, if you like, but it changes nothing.

Wow. OK, let's try this again: there are plenty of Christians out there who do not hold to a literal reading of Genesis, yet I don't know a single one who would deny God as Creator. Your view is...an incredibly narrow view of what God the Creator means.

Huh???

[MorningGlory]

I take issue with your assertion that anybody who does not take Genesis literally is actively denying God as Creator.

Genesis describes the Creation by the Almighty...literally. Anyone who asserts otherwise is, therefore, denying that God is the Creator. You may take issue, if you like, but it changes nothing.

glory2000,

I believe that God is the Creator, and I believe that He creates species via evolution.

Interesting take on the subject, Samuel. We can't know how He does what He does.....but we can be sure that He did.

[ollkiller]

puny little evolutionists

If i came on here and said you puny christians and your views it wouldn't be long before i got banned. All you had to say was evolutionists but you had to get your dig in. I hope that little bit of self-righteousness you felt once you typed the words gives you comfort.