OK Rep states homosexual agenda destroying nation

[sweetycakes]

how is the homosexual agenda destroying our nation?

You're kidding.........right....?

[O'Dannyboy]

how is the homosexual agenda destroying our nation?

Ever heard of Sodom and Gomorrah? If our nation doesn't fall apart as a result of the chaos associated with such blatant disobedience to God, he will certainly bring judgement upon this nation for it. Do you recall the scene when Moses returned from the top of mount Sinai and the people were revelling in sin? Gods laws are not to be taken lightly.

[Guest LadyC]

it's one of many, many liberal idealogies that are destroying the nation spiritually burgers. as for that agenda in particular, it is trying to desensitize us to spiritual truth, righteousness, and obedience to God. it is being forced upon our nation, and the next generation (perhaps yours?) is no longer seeing the hard line between good and evil, between holy and unholy. social acceptance is replacing what we know to be right in the eyes of the Lord, and the voices of parents who are trying to teach their children to walk in God's ways is being drowned out by political correctness.

do you not see how dangerous that is?

[Oh Hamburgers!]

I understand that everyone thinks that sodomy is a sin and everything, but how is the agenda itself, actually destroying America?

Suppose we become desensitized to homosexuality as you say LadyC. How is that going to destroy America? How is that going to affect us spiritually?

I feel like homosexuals can do whatever they want to do as long as they are consenting adults, so I guess that makes me "desensitized". Still, I have no urge to practice sodomy. I have no urge to become a homosexual.

Basically, I think that the homosexual agenda is a big deal today only because we make it a big deal. Maybe someone here can shed some light as to why my tolerance for letting people do what they want to in the bedroom is going to make our nation crumble.

[Burning_Ember]

Really, what are gays going thats so bad? Are they stealing your jobs, being a burden on the healthcare system, and committing crimes?

Wait, thats what you guys say about illegal immigrants. Nevermind.

But seriously, what are they actually doing that is destroying the nation? Destroying it in what way? Is the infrastructure crumbling due to the wieght of half naked men on floats when gay pride parades come around or something?

[Matthitjah]

I understand that everyone thinks that sodomy is a sin and everything, but how is the agenda itself, actually destroying America?

Suppose we become desensitized to homosexuality as you say LadyC. How is that going to destroy America? How is that going to affect us spiritually?

I feel like homosexuals can do whatever they want to do as long as they are consenting adults, so I guess that makes me "desensitized". Still, I have no urge to practice sodomy. I have no urge to become a homosexual.

Basically, I think that the homosexual agenda is a big deal today only because we make it a big deal. Maybe someone here can shed some light as to why my tolerance for letting people do what they want to in the bedroom is going to make our nation crumble.

Grace to you,

Burgers, I'll take a stab at it. Besides what Brother Joe has posted which is enough.

The Homosexual agenda doesn't stop at two consenting adults practicing their perversion in private. It seeks to divide and conquer Marriage as a premise in this Nation. It also seeks to devour the minds both physically and Spiritually of those too weak to defend themselves.

Mind you, we are talking about the Homosexual Agenda and not individual Homosexuals.

The Homosexual Agenda seeks to turn thousands of years of socially acceptable practice in all the worlds communties on it's head for the sake of a relativisitic lie straight from hell that hold individuals in bondage to destruction and now seeks to hold Nations in such as well.

Peace,

Dave

[sweetycakes]

The Homosexual Agenda seeks to turn thousands of years of socially acceptable practice in all the worlds communties on it's head for the sake of a relativisitic lie straight from hell that hold individuals in bondage to destruction and now seeks to hold Nations in such as well.

Peace,

Dave

What he said.

Only I don't think he said it strong enough, in my opinion.

[Oh Hamburgers!]

Grace to you,

Burgers, I'll take a stab at it. Besides what Brother Joe has posted which is enough.

The Homosexual agenda doesn't stop at two consenting adults practicing their perversion in private. It seeks to divide and conquer Marriage as a premise in this Nation. It also seeks to devour the minds both physically and Spiritually of those too weak to defend themselves.

Mind you, we are talking about the Homosexual Agenda and not individual Homosexuals.

The Homosexual Agenda seeks to turn thousands of years of socially acceptable practice in all the worlds communties on it's head for the sake of a relativisitic lie straight from hell that hold individuals in bondage to destruction and now seeks to hold Nations in such as well.

Peace,

Dave

Hi Dave, thanks for responding.

The Homosexual agenda doesn't stop at two consenting adults practicing their perversion in private. It seeks to divide and conquer Marriage as a premise in this Nation.

I'm not sure what you mean by this. I was under the assumption that the homosexual agenda is trying to carve a niche in this country for something similar to a married status. Would you support civil unions in order to give homosexuals a legal standing? Marriage would stay separate.

If you are implying that the push for homosexual marriage is ruining the "good name" of the idea of marriage, I would argue that it's too late for that, seeing as the state can declare people married. It isn't just a religious ceremony, and I don't believe the agenda is expecting religious organizations to marry them.

It also seeks to devour the minds both physically and Spiritually of those too weak to defend themselves.

I'm unclear as to what you are implying here. How is the homosexual agenda doing this?

The Homosexual Agenda seeks to turn thousands of years of socially acceptable practice in all the worlds communties on it's head

Well while I'm not going to try to argue the merits of homosexuality, or if it's right or wrong, this right here doesn't necessarily make it bad. Mankind has a come a long way from a lot of previously acceptable social practices (slavery, female submission, monarchy, serfdom etc. ) I think that for many homosexuals their oppression is viewed as an extension of these past acts.

[Guest LadyC]

burgers... as christians we have the RESPONSIBILITY of defending God's law, of standing firm against unrighteousness. that's not even optional. if you don't understand how moral decay destroys a nation, then i don't know what else to say to try to explain it. the homosexual agenda is but ONE of many examples of moral decay in our society.

have you ever studied the old testament? i mean really, really studied it? it is full of examples of how immorality destroys nations and makes it easier to understand why God expects us to stand firm. we are to come out forcefully against evil.

i was struck by the way you worded something up there... when you said that you know many of us believe homosexuality is a sin... are you of a different opinion?

[Oh Hamburgers!]

we have the RESPONSIBILITY of defending God's law, of standing firm against unrighteousness

We might have the responsibility, but it's also clear that those who are actively fighting for homosexual marriage are not going to change their minds on this matter. When it comes to sin, they know where Christians stand. We aren't going to just change their minds, it will have to come from them. At that point, what more is there to do? Persecution seems pointless, because they aren't going to change (in fact they will most likely become emboldened), and it's a victim-less crime, in that both parties of a homosexual relationship are consenting adults. Now if it was a criminal act such as, murder, where there is a clear cut victim, then obviously there should be laws in place to protect the innocent, but in a case like this, what's the point?

if you don't understand how moral decay destroys a nation, then i don't know what else to say to try to explain it.

No, I really don't know how moral decay actively destroys a nation. How would homosexual marriage actually destroy the nation? Why hasn't the countless other sins of the country destroyed us yet? Shouldn't our formation as a country have been in vain considering our focus on slave labor? There are so many other sins in this country that are accepted or at least practiced to a degree. Why would homosexuality "tip the vengeance scale" over the brink?

have you ever studied the old testament? i mean really, really studied it? it is full of examples of how immorality destroys nations and makes it easier to understand why God expects us to stand firm. we are to come out forcefully against evil.

I've read the old testament. I have not 'studied it' as in poured over it. While I understand the idea, or immorality, I also know that there was a different covenant with God in the old testament, and he had a much more active approach to destroying immoral civilizations.