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36He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. 37It is written: 'And he was numbered with the transgressors'; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me. Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment."

Selling your cloak to buy a sword.

Anyone know what this means?

Apologies if this has come up before.

Thanks.

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the sword is the word of God which is eternal...The cloak a dime a dozen and not important... and

Be on your guard when you have had a rich spiritual experience..satan is about to attack. But the whole content as well gives a clue. Judas had no sword. stan controlled Judas but asked for peter in which satan was denied peter.

This is what I think anyway....

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It had to do with what Jesus knew was supposed to happen next. In order for the following events to happen, one of the disciples would HAVE to have a SWORD to fulfill it and for Jesus to have been supposedly numbered with transgressors:

Luke 22 (continued)

39 Jesus went out as usual to the Mount of Olives, and his disciples followed him. 40 On reaching the place, he said to them, "Pray that you will not fall into temptation." 41 He withdrew about a stone's throw beyond them, knelt down and prayed, 42 "Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done." 43 An angel from heaven appeared to him and strengthened him. 44 And being in anguish, he prayed more earnestly, and his sweat was like drops of blood falling to the ground. 45 When he rose from prayer and went back to the disciples, he found them asleep, exhausted from sorrow. 46 "Why are you sleeping?" he asked them. "Get up and pray so that you will not fall into temptation."

47 While he was still speaking a crowd came up, and the man who was called Judas, one of the Twelve, was leading them. He approached Jesus to kiss him, 48 but Jesus asked him, "Judas, are you betraying the Son of Man with a kiss?" 49 When Jesus' followers saw what was going to happen, they said, "Lord, should we strike with our swords?" 50 And one of them struck the servant of the high priest, cutting off his right ear. 51 But Jesus answered, "No more of this!" And he touched the man's ear and healed him. 52 Then Jesus said to the chief priests, the officers of the temple guard, and the elders, who had come for him, "Am I leading a rebellion, that you have come with swords and clubs? 53 Every day I was with you in the temple courts, and you did not lay a hand on me. But this is your hour--when darkness reigns."

(The sword was necessary for the cutting off of the ear and the healing, AND for the false labeling of the disciples, as "transgressors".)

In His Love,

Suzanne

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Ah. That's right. I get it now. Thanks.

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36He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. 37It is written: 'And he was numbered with the transgressors'; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me. Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment."

Selling your cloak to buy a sword.

Anyone know what this means?

Apologies if this has come up before.

Thanks.

Isaiah 53:12

Therefore I will give him a portion among the great, and he will divide the spoils with the strong, because he poured out his life unto death, and was numbered with the transgressors. For he bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

Just a fulfillment of the OT Scriptures.

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the sword is the word of God which is eternal...The cloak a dime a dozen and not important... and

Be on your guard when you have had a rich spiritual experience..satan is about to attack. But the whole content as well gives a clue. Judas had no sword. stan controlled Judas but asked for peter in which satan was denied peter.

This is what I think anyway....

I'm trying to better understand where people are coming from when they see things a certain way.

Now the question has been answered correctly by Suzanne (tsth), so it need not repeating, but we have several items listed:

(1) money bag, (2) knapsack, (3) sword, (4) garment.

Of those four items, in v38 we see that only the sword is understood literally as a sword. Yet of all four items, you saw the other three as literal (I'm assuming) and the only one that was truly qualified as literal, the sword, you convert into a symbol when the context doesn't ask for it, and would only make things confusing.

So why did you symbolize the sword? And if my assumption is wrong about the other three items, what are they supposed to symbolize?

Just trying to understand. Some people see things that I never see, and if I never see them it would be my loss.

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War!

"WAR"

Right on the money!

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