Superlapsarianism vs Infralapsarianism

[sweetycakes]

Does Your Head Hurt?

Do You Suffer From Hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia?

Want Truth?

Need To Understand What God Really Says About HIS Salvation?

Really, Really Need To See Through The Fog Of Pontification And See The One Who Loved Us To The Uttermost And Then Daily Washes Our Feet?

The Ultimate Christmas Gift

16 "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.

John 3:16 *

I Looked Into My New Open Bible Study Edition ** And Found This Jewel On Page 19.

3. Study a verse by looking for the great ideas revealed in it. Let us look at John 3:16 as our example. We might title this verse "The greatest verse in the Bible." The Following Ideas are found in it:

"God" - the greatest person

"so loved" - the greatest devotion

"the world" - the greatest number

"He gave" - the greatest act

"His only begotten Son" - the greatest gift

"that whosoever believes" - the greatest condition

"should not perish" - the greatest mercy

"have eternal life" - the greatest result

Be Blessed Beloved Of The KING

The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:

The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:

The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.

And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel; and I will bless them. Numbers 6:24-27

Love, Your Brother Joe

* New American Standard Bible) Copyright The Lockman Foundation 1977)

** Copyright 1990 by Thomas Nelson, Inc.

That is quite awesome, Joe

Not for it's clever artistic prose or sentiment, or literary cohesion, but for the fact that this is what we, as believers, experience every day of our lives.

Be blessed

[Guest]

I agree, it's the "I am not of" mentality that historically causes the most trouble. In trying to sort the evil from the good, destroy the evil and nurture the good, we frail creatures have always taken too much authority upon ourselves and managed to turn away from our Saviour's prayer for us, even as we seek to fulfill it:

[hopper]

Edited April 17, 2008 by hopper

[sweetycakes]

Does Your Head Hurt?

Do You Suffer From Hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia?

Augustine was of Hippo.

You are officially a 'fruitcake'

[Guest]

Last!

[eric]

Dontcha just love brother Joe? He always comes up with a jewel...

[WillingToDie]

Also, many people don't know this, but Arminius was actually a Dutch Calvinist, but he got in trouble when he interpreted Calvin in a way different from what other Calvinists interpreted him.

Uh shouldn't the interpretion be from the Word. At most we should compare what the Lord is showing us to those who have come before us. Calvin is not the final authority, the Word of God is. I guess this is why we have so much division. We still have an" I am of" mentality

Unfortunately it is difficult to make a Systematic Theology from Scripture alone. Very rarely, when making a Systematic Theology, does one start from scratch, as many theologians build from an earlier one. For example, Calvin borrows heavily Augustine (almost as much as he borrows from Scripture).

[mrs]

Very interesting thread you have here Ryan...

Hopper you are officially crazy.

And I think I'm an infra... if I understand it's outline the right way.

[MorningGlory]

Very interesting thread you have here Ryan...

Hopper you are officially crazy.

And I think I'm an infra... if I understand it's outline the right way.

Hopper's not the only one who is officially crazy.....this thread has driven me up the wall trying to figure out what y'all are talking about.

[eagleswings]

I'm with Solomon (or whoever it was that wrote Ecclesiastes):

Ecclesiastes 12

12 . . . Of making many books there is no end, and much study wearies the body.

13 Now all has been heard; here is the conclusion of the matter: Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man. 14 For God will bring every deed into judgment, including every hidden thing, whether it is good or evil.

Whatever conclusion you achieve through this discussion over Super- and Infra - whatsitism, the bottom line is that if you do not believe in Jesus (become born again or whatever way you wish to express this) you will be eternally judged and if you do believe in Jesus you will spend eternity with Him. And is that not what matters in the end?

Amen and Amen..... thank God I,m a foolish thing He chose.... lol.........