Miraculous Gifts

[eric]

Hi Ex,

I don't think One Light is inferring that the H/S moves in to form a gift, What he is saying the way I read it is, that even you have the gift of healing, you can't just go around healing people if it is not the wish of God, or H/S if you prefer it, for that person to be healed at that time. And that is scripture based.

[exrockstar]

Hi Ex,

I don't think One Light is inferring that the H/S moves in to form a gift, What he is saying the way I read it is, that even you have the gift of healing, you can't just go around healing people if it is not the wish of God, or H/S if you prefer it, for that person to be healed at that time. And that is scripture based.

i understnad what is being said so maybe i ought to rephrase my question:

where does it say that gifts work only when it is God's will?

[OneLight]

Hi Ex,

I don't think One Light is inferring that the H/S moves in to form a gift, What he is saying the way I read it is, that even you have the gift of healing, you can't just go around healing people if it is not the wish of God, or H/S if you prefer it, for that person to be healed at that time. And that is scripture based.

i understnad what is being said so maybe i ought to rephrase my question:

where does it say that gifts work only when it is God's will?

The gifts are given as He sees fit, and exercised in the same manner. As we have given our lives over to Him, do we not also ask for His will to be done? Are we not praying the He guide us in all things? Are you not moved by His Spirit to do certain things, whether it is helping an old lady or prophesying? Does not the Holy Spirit bring back to memory scripture that He wants you to speak? Everything of God is lead by God, not by man.

Hebrews 2:1-4

Therefore we must give the more earnest heed to the things we have heard, lest we drift away. 2 For if the word spoken through angels proved steadfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just reward, 3 how shall we escape if we neglect so great a salvation, which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed to us by those who heard Him, 4 God also bearing witness both with signs and wonders, with various miracles, and gifts of the Holy Spirit, according to His own will?

The question is not about Gods will, but about how we could neglect salvation.

[OneLight]

I'd like to add one more piece of scripture ...

1 Corinthian 12:4-6

There are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. 5 There are differences of ministries, but the same Lord. 6 And there are diversities of activities, but it is the same God who works all in all.

[exrockstar]

i think we're talking about two different things.

nevermind....

[OneLight]

i think we're talking about two different things.

nevermind....

Wait ... was this not your question?

i understnad what is being said so maybe i ought to rephrase my question:

where does it say that gifts work only when it is God's will?

[exrockstar]

i think we're talking about two different things.

nevermind....

Wait ... was this not your question?

i understnad what is being said so maybe i ought to rephrase my question:

where does it say that gifts work only when it is God's will?

yeah that was my question.

but your scriptures have nothing to do with gifts working when HS/God feels they should work.

The only way we can request for something to happen, and it does (through God's will), is through a thing called prayer.

[OneLight]

i think we're talking about two different things.

nevermind....

Wait ... was this not your question?

i understnad what is being said so maybe i ought to rephrase my question:

where does it say that gifts work only when it is God's will?

yeah that was my question.

but your scriptures have nothing to do with gifts working when HS/God feels they should work.

The only way we can request for something to happen, and it does (through God's will), is through a thing called prayer.

That is my point! The Holy Spirit moves in us when He wants us to use our gifts. He does not wait for prayer! Even the word tells us that there are times when we know not what to pray for. If He waited for our prayers, things would never get done in time ...

If we have the gift of discernment, do He wait for us to pray and ask for the gift to be used or does He move within us to show us which spirit is behind a matter? Does He wait for prayer to prophesy or does He move within us whit His word? The Holy Spirit gives gifts to those who He knows will use them according to His will.

God does not wait for us to ask Him to do something. He does it when He wants it done. The scripture I provided shows just that. It is by His will that all things from God comes about, not ours. Your theology puts us ahead of God, and we are never that!

In His Love,

OneLight

[Guest]

i think we're talking about two different things.

nevermind....

It's A Deep Deep Subject Brother And Takes A Guileless Study Of Holy Scripture To Begin To Understand (I Don't - Yet!)

But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Hebrews 11:6

Maybe The Root Question Is Who Is The Holy Spirit

Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart. 2 Corinthians 3:3

And Does The Holy Ghost Indwell All Believers

Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? 1 Corinthians 3:16

It Is Almost Too Wonderful To Behold

Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: John 17:20-22

I Am Astounded

Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. Hebrews 12:2

Crushed

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16

Loved

The LORD hath appeared of old unto me, saying, Yea, I have loved thee with an everlasting love: therefore with lovingkindness have I drawn thee. Jeremiah 31:3

Amen

[exrockstar]

That is my point! The Holy Spirit moves in us when He wants us to use our gifts. He does not wait for prayer! Even the word tells us that there are times when we know not what to pray for. If He waited for our prayers, things would never get done in time ...

If we have the gift of discernment, do He wait for us to pray and ask for the gift to be used or does He move within us to show us which spirit is behind a matter? Does He wait for prayer to prophesy or does He move within us whit His word? The Holy Spirit gives gifts to those who He knows will use them according to His will.

God does not wait for us to ask Him to do something. He does it when He wants it done. The scripture I provided shows just that. It is by His will that all things from God comes about, not ours. Your theology puts us ahead of God, and we are never that!

In His Love,

OneLight

my theology? i don't believe i tried to interpret anything.

i just asked you some questions.