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Hugs to ya sweetie,  hang in there... pretty soon you'll be your own boss!

Yup! And that's when the goin' usually gets the toughest. :x:

Beth, you know full well how I love you, but you need to listen to the excellent advice given here. Your parents do have the right to control what you do, say, whom you associate with, what's on your computer, what's in your top left dresser drawer, etc., ad infinitum.

You know, even if they said you cannot be a Worthy member anymore, that is their right. Period!

Until you are 18 they have all rights over you. Obviously, that DOES NOT include any kind of abuse or anything that would harm you. They should never physically injure you, nor should they mentally harm you, but the latter is a fine line and open to interpretation.

Do as the Bible teaches, i.e., honor your parents, obey them and love them. Your days will be long and you won't regret it later on. Trust me my little friend.

Bro John with many :hug:

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Bethable,

after considering my reply above, and those above that, I have a suggestion.

Please give us a specific or two where you think your parents don't have the ultimate right over you.

Quite possibly, you're speaking of something we know nothing about.

Love you sweetie :il:

Old Man John, Your brother with many :hug:


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Neb, at one point.....

And so I feared God being mad at me all the time, too. It made me fearful to confess anything to Him. If ever I felt mad at Him for something (like we all tend to do at times), I would try to deny and bury it; I could never be honest with Him about those types of feelings for fear His wrath would turn against me. But, of course, this is how my dad would react.

I did have that fear. I thought God was angry at me, but for my sin, not because of my dad. My earthly dad is awesome, and even though he isn't the spiritual leader of the household....he is a loving, and giving person. And he has never hurt me.....except for the times when he won't support me, my beliefs or what I believe to be God's calling on my life.....that only hurts, because no one supports me, and it gets very discouraging, and I want my dad to be there for me, and for us to be friends and be able to talk....

I do see now why you would ask.....because I said I didn't jump when they shouted. :huh: I literally meant that. Around here, talking is shouting. and shouting is a louder form of yelling. My ears hurt from all the hollerin. In another sense, I do fear disapointing my parents. It hurts when they exclaim that i have changed, that I am a bad person that they wish I'd do better in school, that I'd quit doing this and that and blah blah blah. They don't accept me for who I am, and a lot of times, I am not myself. Just a person. I try to be brutally honest with God. Tell Him everything, and withhold nothing, and just be me. I fear that everything I do disapoints Him. Nothing I do is good enough for anyone. But then again I know that I am a pearl of great price, that man's opinion doesn't matter, that I should place my worth in God.

Thanks,

Beth

p.s. John, they have a right to what I say?? Well hmmm. If I want to say hallelujah, praise God, amen, I love you Jesus, they have a "right" to stop me from even talking??? My parents let me say what I want. (except cursing, and I don't want to do that anyway) I don't understand how one could control your speech. but okay. Thanks for your response.


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oops John, you posted again before I saw it :oww: :huh:

Bethable,

after considering my reply above, and those above that, I have a suggestion.

Please give us a specific or two where you think your parents don't have the ultimate right over you.

Quite possibly, you're speaking of something we know nothing about.

Love you sweetie

Old Man John, Your brother with many 

I don't think my parents have a right to say what I believe

to control me

to constantly scream at me and make me feel dumb

to always tell me stuff without saying why.

but the question was asked in the first place because I always hear that term. Because it is my right!!!! And I just wanted to know these rights that my parents claim to have.

what exactly was it that I didn't know about their rules.

I can't make you understand why I asked for you don't know me nor my parents.

Maybe I do have a problem with authority as one of my friends sugested......I never thought about it twice until I related it to other things.

like how i cannot stand men that think they own everything............that think they can dominate a women, that think they can do whatever on God's green earth that tehy want to and get away with it.....

also how my parents always claim to have these rights and yet they never tell you what they are, why they have them, or nothing. They just say that so that the child would accept it and move on. Well that doesn't jive with me. If you are gonna make me do something, then I want to know why........or rather when I ask you something don't respond with it is my right and la la la.......just someitmesa doesn't make sense.

again, thank you for your responses.

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Oh my BethaBubble, :huh:

I think your parents are trying to do what they think is best for you. It may in fact not be. But in their minds they are trying. Really!

And unfortunately, 'till you're 18, they have that right. But then, you may be more fortunate than you know.

Look at this way, they have obviously raised you to be a great girl (woman) of God. You got to where you are because of them, and God. They have obviously raised up a jewel of a girl. You are uncommon in this day and age, and I praise God for you, and your parents.

Bethable, Oh my huggable Bethefuzzser, it is very common for teenagers to rebel, or, question their parents at times. You are no different than anyone else of us old fogies here. Hey, we all did it at one time or another. At any time, they may be right, or YOU may be right. But until you are of legal age, they have the say. Thats just the way it is - and should be.

What I want you to do is pray and thank God you have parents that allow you to praise Jesus and participate here on Worthy. Parents that allow you to participate in your "Expressive Worship" programs. You are blessed. God has great things in mind for you!

Love you sweetsiepoo!!!!

Your old decrepped mentor,

Bro John :hug: and with much :il:

P.S. Hey gals, I'm no good at this. Would one or two of you fine and Godly Lady's step in here? Beth is so precious! Help her with "womanly" and Godly advice.

THANX

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Until the Ladies step in again Beth, just let me say:

Father, Daddy, In Jesus Holy Name.

please be with little Beth, and instill in her honor and respect for her parents. You alone know how much they love her. You alone know that they are not perfect. As none of us are.

Please Daddy, fill Beth's parents with love and then more love. Guide them to treat lil' Beth in the way You want her treated.

We love her, and know that You do too.

Please keep this precious child in Your Holy care.

Dad, we love our little Bethable. Fill her with wisdom and love I pray.

Oh Daddy, help her and strengthen her.

Amen and amen.

We love you Beth, I love you! :il: :il: :il:

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John, my friend. Don't get me wrong;

I honor and cherish and I praise God for my parents. They don't abuse me, they love me more than anything, they do the best they can in raising me and my other siblings...they are totally and completely awesome, and I am so totally blessed.

Yeah, I 2nd guess my parents, but I am not rebellious. I wouldn't even really know how to be.

And John, I did give you specific examples brother.....

I don't think my parents have a right to say what I believe

to control me

to constantly scream at me and make me feel dumb

to always tell me stuff without saying why.

but the question was asked in the first place because I always hear that term. Because it is my right!!!! And I just wanted to know these rights that my parents claim to have.

I only asked this question to get a better understanding of my parents. Not to rebel, not to start something, and not to complain. Just to seek further uinderstanding.


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Neb, at one point.....
And so I feared God being mad at me all the time, too. It made me fearful to confess anything to Him. If ever I felt mad at Him for something (like we all tend to do at times), I would try to deny and bury it; I could never be honest with Him about those types of feelings for fear His wrath would turn against me. But, of course, this is how my dad would react.

I did have that fear. I thought God was angry at me, but for my sin, not because of my dad. My earthly dad is awesome, and even though he isn't the spiritual leader of the household....he is a loving, and giving person. And he has never hurt me.....except for the times when he won't support me, my beliefs or what I believe to be God's calling on my life.....that only hurts, because no one supports me, and it gets very discouraging, and I want my dad to be there for me, and for us to be friends and be able to talk....

I do see now why you would ask.....because I said I didn't jump when they shouted. :D I literally meant that. Around here, talking is shouting. and shouting is a louder form of yelling. My ears hurt from all the hollerin. In another sense, I do fear disapointing my parents. It hurts when they exclaim that i have changed, that I am a bad person that they wish I'd do better in school, that I'd quit doing this and that and blah blah blah. They don't accept me for who I am, and a lot of times, I am not myself. Just a person. I try to be brutally honest with God. Tell Him everything, and withhold nothing, and just be me. I fear that everything I do disapoints Him. Nothing I do is good enough for anyone. But then again I know that I am a pearl of great price, that man's opinion doesn't matter, that I should place my worth in God.

Beth -

Do you still have this fear - that you are continually disappointing God? That if you are not perfect, He is displeased with you?

Also, I was wondering why your parents say you are a "bad person?"


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p.s. John, they have a right to what I say?? Well hmmm. If I want to say hallelujah, praise God, amen, I love you Jesus, they have a "right" to stop me from even talking??? My parents let me say what I want. (except cursing, and I don't want to do that anyway) I don't understand how one could control your speech. but okay. Thanks for your response.

Just wanting to be sure - are they punishing you for expressing your Christian faith and love for the Lord?


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Beth -

Do you still have this fear - that you are continually disappointing God? That if you are not perfect, He is displeased with you?

I don't.I know I am not perfect. Knowing that I am a human, and I make mistakes, doesn'y make me feel any better though. Gid is not disappointed in me, but in the sin. I hate sin, so does God, but I know that we aren't perfect.

It is not an obesessive thought, just one to ponder about. Like any parent, God is disapointed when His children disobey Him, or are mean to other children ect. Not that I place God on the same level as my earthly parents.

Also, I was wondering why your parents say you are a "bad person?"

Why does any one say that someone is a bad person??? They don't blatantly tell me that I am a bad kid....but they always find some way to belittle me. or make me feel like I am bad.

Just wanting to be sure - are they punishing you for expressing your Christian faith and love for the Lord?

They do not puynish me....for anything. They just always make smart and rather stupid coments about things I do. When I spend time with God, I used to light candles, and play songs, and there response was ha la lama amaa why are you doing that buddah stuff?? Or don' mess with her she is mediating. My brother liked to call it satanic. I mean whatever. I just get tired of them always doubting what I do.

They do not go to church.......and my mom always finds an excuse for not going, especially if the puppet team or expressive worship team are doing something. She get on these random kicks about satan, and I am just hinking, "what do you know about satan..or God for that matter" And I always get convicted, for who am I to judge her spiritual state, or her relationship with the Lord, except to say there isn't any fruit.

I told my mom about me wanting to be a missionary and her response was, well there are unsaved black people here that you can reach :D:D I was like mom!! How can you say that, sure there are PEOPLE that are here that need jesus, but I feel called to go across the lands telling others about Christ. "That is stupid" " You can't do it" "you'll just die" "you'll just abandon me like your other sisters" "You big hypocrite"I am just like come on!!! ughh. It is just frustrating.

So it isn't punishment......it just bites being the only person (except for my twin) that loves the Lord in this house.....and being constantly torn down.

Neb what is with the random question??? Are you trying to fnd some reason that I am mad at my parents or something?

thanks,

Beth

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