Daddy, why did we have to attack Iraq?

[Guest yod]

Cymba....thank you for using your brain.

River, I am ashamed of you. Comparing Bush to Hitler is an insult to those millions who lost their lives in WWII

Other One believes any conspiracy theory coming down the pike, evidently. As long we attempt to maintain freedom then we surely must be doing it for Lucifer, right?

Thank God neither of you are in any position of the government. You certainly have the qualifications to be a Democratic Presidential nominee!!!

The world is ruled by the aggressive use of force. Those who are afraid to confront brutality will be the slaves of those who are brutal.

[Guest yod]

You have swallowed the socialist democratic talking points hook, line & sinker.

They tried to say the same thing about Reagan, a great American. You have absolutely no basis for making those accusations. "Lies" is actually a better description.

There is NO comparison between Bush and Hitler except in the minds of the liberal hate mongers. I didn't realize you were one of them.

I am ashamed of you. Please reconsider your position.

[cymba22]

Yod...thank you...

river...this freedom your crying about ...you wouldn't have if bush had done nothing and bin laden gained control over the states...it doesn't take a genious to work that out

the other one....you seem more resonable to talke to than river and your points are comming across that thsi is more a spiritual war...is that correct??in which case i can agree...God put bush in the postion he is in...for a reason..he has his plan...therefore what bush did is part of Gods plan

[Guest yod]

Calling me a "liberal hate monger" is a prime example of swallowing hooks and a kettle calling a pot black wouldn't you say? Who is typically pointing fingers and calling names? It ain't the party looking to defend rights of the individual that's for certain. No, the name calling begins at the GOP headquarters and it spirals downhill from there.

First of all, a "liberal" is not confined to either party though the Dems seem to be controlled by them. I've got no problem with a Democrat who supports the sanctity of life. This one issue lets me know whether a person has the light of life in them.

But....for every single republican you can name who has issued assaults based on personal dislike of another candidate, I can name 3 dozen Dems who have. It's wrong in either case but the "donkeys" are ate up with it so much that they can't see Americans are sick of 'em. That's OK by me...there is a day of reckoning coming this November.

How many lies has Kerry been caught in so far? If he were a republican, the GOP base would be calling for his head. As a Democrat, he is celebrated for being like his predecessor....just not as creative a liar.

[Guest Katatonic Bliss]

There have been hundreds of American deaths in the Iraqi conflict. We are going back on our promise to withdraw and hand over the government to Iraq. As long as the U.S. continues to occupy Iraq, it's citizens will keep resisting.

George Bush has not attended one funeral for any of the brave soldiers that fought for his cause.

Bush got us into this war. He will not get us out.

[Guest yod]

There were over 8,000 Americans killed in the Battle of Midway. Yet we pushed on to complete the job because Americans knew there was no turning back until the job was finished. Most of us see it the same way today. Terrorism must be defeated because it can not be appeased. Clinton has already proven that for us.

Bush, like his father before him, has done an amazing thing in Iraq. We rid the Middle East of the Butcher of Bagdad.

I'm sorry you guys don't like that...but most Iraqis do.

When this is over you can criticise all you want while we laugh at how YOUR freedoms were being protected by the brave men and women whom you disparage with this kind of talk.

[Guest Katatonic Bliss]

My point is that we had no right to go into Iraq, as we didn't find weapons when Saddam let U.S. inspectors in, we didn't find weapons when we invaded. We had no just cause for invading Iraq at all. The main goal was to remove Saddam from power. We did that. Now we are exploiting Iraq. This is not justice.

[cymba22]

actually weapon were found...the un inspectors(my cousin was one of them) saw them...they were then hurried out with 24 hours notice or get shot...this was the first war there so cast your minds back....the person who told the un weapons inspecters about these was saddams brother in law...which is why within the week he had his brother in law shot..

more weapon were found a few days ago

[Guest kitkat]

My point is that we had no right to go into Iraq, as we didn't find weapons when Saddam let U.S. inspectors in, we didn't find weapons when we invaded. We had no just cause for invading Iraq at all. The main goal was to remove Saddam from power. We did that. Now we are exploiting Iraq. This is not justice.

Where is your empathy for the suffering of others?

Saddam was determined to destroy two civilizations: The Kurds to the north and the Shias to the south.

Saddam and his regimes have countless rape, murder, torture and kidnapping charges. Not to mention his acts of genocide in which Saddam used chemical and biological weapons to kill close to 1.5 million people, most of them women and children. Saddam

[other one]

the other one....you seem more resonable to talke to than river and your points are comming across that thsi is more a spiritual war...is that correct??in which case i can agree...God put bush in the postion he is in...for a reason..he has his plan...therefore what bush did is part of Gods plan

Thank you cymba. Yes, I do believe it is in the spiritual realm. I think God allowed GW to be elected. Even though there are so many born again Christians that remain here, I believe with all my heart that Lucifer has taken control of this country and is using us to do his will.

I really don't see that we have any real choice in this election.

We have skull and bones GW and JFK who are both involved with global people who meet regularly and have pagan worship services; even to the point of mock child sacrifices to Moloch during their cremation of care ceremony at the Bohemian Grove, and others that I have only heard about so I try and not discuss them. One talks out of the right side of his mouth, and the other the left side of his, and they both are taking us to the same place while we are caught up in the fighting between them and not watching where we are actually going. According to the books they (the globalists) write and the white papers they publish they are taking us into a New World Order with a very reduced population.

In the sixties or seventies, I'd have to look be sure, Paul Warburg told our senate that they would have their one world government either by submission or by violence, it would be our choice. After so many years we come to terrorism and the loss of our constitutional rights. From Waco to Ruby Ridge, from Tim McVeay to Osama, constitutional protection for the public seems to be what has changed the most. Centralizing power by deception just as Hitler and so many others did in the past. This is why we that have watched for a life time can compare what is happening now to the Nazi's during WWII. But that's a whole other thread.

We were warned by our founding fathers not to let the private bankers get involved with the country's treasury system and we did not pay head.

President Eisenhower warned us of the military establishment, and we have let it take up too much power. Interestingly enough along with his warning of the military he also warned us of the academia elite also of taking over our colleges and turning them into the controlling research facilities they are. Both have much to much control and or influence on our government. The money that both generate is what gets people elected, for thier people are the only ones that can afford to run.

I have looked and studied and talked with friends and others that have watched all this come about and none of us can think of a single thing that can be done to stop it.

So we pray...... pray that our friends and family don't get involved and get caught up in it all. We pray that when the evil one comes we will either not be here or not fall for the deception that is coming. Please don't get in an argument about the rapture, it doesn't matter as long as we are all watching and praying and taking care of each other..

Hal Lindsay