Suicide

[Guest lovinghim4ever]

I've been discussing this topic on another forum and wanted to get some input from my WB friends.

This is my belief . . .

Suicide is the result of an illness in the mind, and God can heal all illnesses. But, for reasons known only to Him, He doesn't heal them all here on earth.

So, I just do not believe that God would send a person to hell because of an illness He can heal. I believe that all He is interested in is whether or not they are saved by the Blood of Jesus.

What do you believe?

[BlindSeeker]

I've been discussing this topic on another forum and wanted to get some input from my WB friends.

This is my belief . . .

Suicide is an illness of the mind, and God can heal all illnesses. But, for reasons known only to Him, He doesn't heal them all here on earth.

So, I just do not believe that God would send a person to hell because of an illness He can heal. I believe that all He is interested in is whether or not they are saved by the Blood of Jesus.

What do you believe?

God will deal with it case by case . . . there is no correct absolute answer.

[traveller]

I've been discussing this topic on another forum and wanted to get some input from my WB friends.

This is my belief . . .

Suicide is an illness of the mind, and God can heal all illnesses. But, for reasons known only to Him, He doesn't heal them all here on earth.

So, I just do not believe that God would send a person to hell because of an illness He can heal. I believe that all He is interested in is whether or not they are saved by the Blood of Jesus.

What do you believe?

God will deal with it case by case . . . there is no correct absolute answer.

Amen brother - case by case and heart by heart.

[nebula]

Suicide is the result of an illness in the mind, and God can heal all illnesses. But, for reasons known only to Him, He doesn't heal them all here on earth.

So, I just do not believe that God would send a person to hell because of an illness He can heal.

I have struggled with suicide most my life, so please understand my perspective when I say this.

The presentation of this question bothers me.

You see, the way this is worded almost sounds like, "It's God's fault...." Just that subtle: He can heal but He doesn't, therefore He can't condemn the person - because it was in His power to heal but He didn't.

Do you see what I'm saying?

Note, I'm not going to disagree with what the others have said about God judging case by case. However, there is more to suicide than being sick. (Again, I speak as one who has struggled with this for too many years.)

Plus, like any other "thorn in the flesh" and "trials", the Lord means for this to grow us, refine us, mold us. If nothing else, I can tell how my struggle has developed compassion in me, something for which I am grateful for. It also provoked me to press deeper into the Lord than I would have otherwise, something for which I would never trade for all the happiness in the world.

Bottom line, suicide ends with a choice. But if you must blame anyone, blame Satan and his minions - for they are responsible for the bondage, the deception, the clouding of judgment and all those dark things.

That is not to say the Lord is not merciful to the person's weakness. But for someone to believe they can get away with killing themselves because "God didn't heal me, and so He'll be OK with me eating Satan's fruit," is the completely absolute utterly wrong perspective to take on this issue.

OK?

[Guest zoe-girl]

I've been discussing this topic on another forum and wanted to get some input from my WB friends.

This is my belief . . .

Suicide is an illness of the mind, and God can heal all illnesses. But, for reasons known only to Him, He doesn't heal them all here on earth.

So, I just do not believe that God would send a person to hell because of an illness He can heal. I believe that all He is interested in is whether or not they are saved by the Blood of Jesus.

What do you believe?

God will deal with it case by case . . . there is no correct absolute answer.

Amen brother - case by case and heart by heart.

I agree with these two!

[nebula]

I could be wrong here but .... I don't think this person was trying to blame God for not "saving" them from commiting suicide. And I don't think they were implying because God didn't heal its ok to choose sin. Maybe I'm wrong though

Luv in Christ

Not intentionally, no.

But Satan is a master deceiver and is good at tricking us, you know?

[BlindSeeker]

Suicide is the result of an illness in the mind, and God can heal all illnesses. But, for reasons known only to Him, He doesn't heal them all here on earth.

So, I just do not believe that God would send a person to hell because of an illness He can heal.

I have struggled with suicide most my life, so please understand my perspective when I say this.

The presentation of this question bothers me.

You see, the way this is worded almost sounds like, "It's God's fault...." Just that subtle: He can heal but He doesn't, therefore He can't condemn the person - because it was in His power to heal but He didn't.

Do you see what I'm saying?

Note, I'm not going to disagree with what the others have said about God judging case by case. However, there is more to suicide than being sick. (Again, I speak as one who has struggled with this for too many years.)

Plus, like any other "thorn in the flesh" and "trials", the Lord means for this to grow us, refine us, mold us. If nothing else, I can tell how my struggle has developed compassion in me, something for which I am grateful for. It also provoked me to press deeper into the Lord than I would have otherwise, something for which I would never trade for all the happiness in the world.

Bottom line, suicide ends with a choice. But if you must blame anyone, blame Satan and his minions - for they are responsible for the bondage, the deception, the clouding of judgment and all those dark things.

That is not to say the Lord is not merciful to the person's weakness. But for someone to believe they can get away with killing themselves because "God didn't heal me, and so He'll be OK with me eating Satan's fruit," is the completely absolute utterly wrong perspective to take on this issue.

OK?

I understand your point Nebula and feel it was a good observation. However, there can be so many variables that only God can execute righteous judgment in the matter. I find it hard to believe that God would allow anyone to slip this far without His grace abounding sufficiently enough to rescue . . . but some don't want to be rescued.

Some just want their death to hurt and be a guilt trip for others . . . even to God.

[nebula]

I understand your point Nebula and feel it was a good observation. However, there can be so many variables that only God can execute righteous judgment in the matter. I find it hard to believe that God would allow anyone to slip this far without His grace abounding sufficiently enough to rescue . . . but some don't want to be rescued.

Hey - I'm not arguing that point!

All I am trying to say is that the mindset of the OP disturbs me.

I've walked this path. Do you not think I know what the next stage in that line of thought is? Do you not think I've thought and felt the way I have expressed?

Don't any of you get that?

[BlindSeeker]

I understand your point Nebula and feel it was a good observation. However, there can be so many variables that only God can execute righteous judgment in the matter. I find it hard to believe that God would allow anyone to slip this far without His grace abounding sufficiently enough to rescue . . . but some don't want to be rescued.

Hey - I'm not arguing that point!

All I am trying to say is that the mindset of the OP disturbs me.

I've walked this path. Do you not think I know what the next stage in that line of thought is? Do you not think I've thought and felt the way I have expressed?

Don't any of you get that?

I didn't feel you were arguing that point. My comment concerning God's judgment was for the sake of the thread itself.

As far as understanding you've had personal experience with the matter, yes I do. I believe God has allowed you grace to overcome and be the person you are today.

Experiencing it myself? No. Self loathing? Yes. But fear of God has stayed me from ever seriously contemplating suicide.

You do not leave home at the age of fifteen without making other bad judgments and having regrets. That

[Guest man]

Suicide is the result of an illness in the mind, and God can heal all illnesses. But, for reasons known only to Him, He doesn't heal them all here on earth.

People kill themselves for a number of reasons, mental illness is just one of them.

It may be a sin, but it's not an unforgivable sin. And if it's not an unforgivable sin, what does that tell you?