Women in ministry

[Guest celebratejesus]

Every other biblical quote about authority has to BOW to HIS AUTHORITY, and so if He makes no difference between male and female, why should we?

Yours in Christ

soshine

from celebratejesus below:

This is really dangerous ground. If He makes no difference between male and female? From the Creation of man, God definitely let us all know the differences. God's Word is not hard if we allow the guidance of the Holy Spirit. I've been on Theology boards and christians, we just cannot let our intellect get in the way of the Spirit. No one interprets but the Holy Spirit, correctly that is.

1 Cor. 2:12-16

12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God.13 These things we also speak, not in words which man's wisdom teaches but which the [fn4] Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15 But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one. 16 For "who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct Him?" [fn5] But we have the mind of Christ.

2 Peter 1:20-21

20 knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private [fn2] interpretation, 21 for prophecy never came by the will of man, but [fn3] holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.

Edited August 4, 2008 by celebratejesus

[jeffnevins]

I Cor. 14

As in all the congregations of the saints, 34women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. 35If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.

Husband? What about unmarried women?

Anyway, I guess women aren't allowed to speak- at all.

Or maybe speak means speaking in front of the others in church.

[Floatingaxe]

I'm afraid Churches are heading down a very unbiblical road nowadays.

I realize there are examples in scripture that mention woman in the roles of prophesy, or praying, but there are NO examples of a Woman in a leadership role. Infact the Bible says that they are never to have a role of authority over a man in the Church, and that they are to learn in submission and quietness in the church as well. There are many ministries in the Church that woman can be a part of, however the role of leadership is not one of them. (No matter how unpopular it may be)

Phoebe was a pastor. Many women were leaders in the churches in Paul's day. They were under Pauls' apostleship. It is and should be the same today. Thank God that many local churches are becoming more spirit-led, and being freed by Him in the area of religiosity, a major curse on the people of God!

There is so much religious and sexist bigotry still influencing today's believers that it takes a major move of the Holy Spirit to bring correction regarding service and ministry. The Holy Spirit doesn't "pass over" people with the "wrong plumbing" when passing out spiritual gifts. (That is a "man" thing.) He pays no regard to gender whatsoever! He is looking for willing hearts to serve the King.

[Floatingaxe]

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[Guest celebratejesus]

This sort of attitude towards God's Word is one of misunderstanding Him. I am sorry that you "take Him" in any way besides Love. God is Love, true Love. Everything in His Word is about loving us. There are good reasons(God's reasons are purely Good)for all things He has taught us, given us. I pray that you seek His Wisdom in this. Only He can help you understand. Another person such as myself can quote His Word but only He can help you to understand it.

God bless you, denise

Every other biblical quote about authority has to BOW to HIS AUTHORITY, and so if He makes no difference between male and female, why should we?

Yours in Christ

soshine

from celebratejesus below:

This is really dangerous ground. If He makes no difference between male and female? From the Creation of man, God definitely let us all know the differences. God's Word is not hard if we allow the guidance of the Holy Spirit. I've been on Theology boards and christians, we just cannot let our intellect get in the way of the Spirit. No one interprets but the Holy Spirit, correctly that is.

1 Cor. 2:12-16

12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God.13 These things we also speak, not in words which man's wisdom teaches but which the [fn4] Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15 But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one. 16 For "who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct Him?" [fn5] But we have the mind of Christ.

2 Peter 1:20-21

20 knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private [fn2] interpretation, 21 for prophecy never came by the will of man, but [fn3] holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.

[Guest celebratejesus]

If something is not able to be reconciled to the Bible than it is "not" of Gods Word. It is of man-made doctrine and therefor, if not of God than of satan. There is not gray area folks:( Please seek Him now and His Truth.

denise

I'm afraid Churches are heading down a very unbiblical road nowadays.

I realize there are examples in scripture that mention woman in the roles of prophesy, or praying, but there are NO examples of a Woman in a leadership role. Infact the Bible says that they are never to have a role of authority over a man in the Church, and that they are to learn in submission and quietness in the church as well. There are many ministries in the Church that woman can be a part of, however the role of leadership is not one of them. (No matter how unpopular it may be)

Phoebe was a pastor. Many women were leaders int he churches in Paul's day. They were under Pauls' apostleship. It is and should be the same today. Thank God that many local churches are becoming more spirit-led, and being freed by Him in the area of religiosity, a major curse on the people of God!

There is so much religious and sexist bigotry still influencing today's believers that it takes a major move of the Holy Spirit to bring correction regarding service and ministry. The Holy Spirit doesn't "pass over" people with the "wrong plumbing" when passing out spiritual gifts. (That is a "man" thing.) He pays no regard to gender whatsoever! He is looking for willing hearts to serve the King.

[Guest celebratejesus]

the verse I use for my "signature" here has such meaning for me. It is not a lot of words, but it means so very much. I am not big on commentaries but if I use one, I like John Gills. Sorry it is long on this verse but I believe it to be excellent. I pray each person will seek the One True God in this "debate" over women in ministry.

The New John Gill Exposition of the Entire Bible

2 Timothy 2:15

Study to show thyself approved unto God

[Floatingaxe]

If something is not able to be reconciled to the Bible than it is "not" of Gods Word. It is of man-made doctrine and therefor, if not of God than of satan. There is not gray area folks:( Please seek Him now and His Truth.

denise

Absolutely.

[sistercindy]

There is so much religious and sexist bigotry still influencing today's believers that it takes a major move of the Holy Spirit to bring correction regarding service and ministry. The Holy Spirit doesn't "pass over" people with the "wrong plumbing" when passing out spiritual gifts. (That is a "man" thing.) He pays no regard to gender whatsoever! He is looking for willing hearts to serve the King.

[Floatingaxe]

There is so much religious and sexist bigotry still influencing today's believers that it takes a major move of the Holy Spirit to bring correction regarding service and ministry. The Holy Spirit doesn't "pass over" people with the "wrong plumbing" when passing out spiritual gifts. (That is a "man" thing.) He pays no regard to gender whatsoever! He is looking for willing hearts to serve the King.

Wow my friend...wow... you make a valid point..... Our God is indeed looking for the willing heart to serve Him... Our God loves us all and gives His Spirit and Give Gifts....as He pleases....

wow... i felt something special in your post..

thanks my friend

God Bless

Thank you, sister. Blessings to you.