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i think one other person besides myself in this thread have already stated that we have personally heard the audible voice of God. true, we don't know one another in real life, but if knowing one another on the web counts, you all at least know one.

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i understand your skepticism. i was skeptical when i heard Him speak myself. but it doesn't change the fact. and as you'll note from my previous post, i said it isn't something God does often, never was. the Bible indicates that it was rare. however, God IS still the same yesterday, today, and forever. can you (or anyone here) provide a single scripture that would indicate that God has changed? i see requests for scriptural proof that He still does speak audibly, but i think a more appropriate question is, where is the scriptural proof that He doesn't?

it doesn't exist.

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I don't believe it really matters whether He does or not.

If you believe He does.....that's fine.

If you believe He doesn't......that's fine too.

It doesn't make you a better christian if you believe He does and it doesn't make you any less of a believer if you think He doesn't.

I've never heard a voice speak to me out of thin air, but that doesn't mean He's never said anything to me.

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good point, man. also, dave made a really great point. do we hear when God does speak, no matter how He chooses to speak to us? i've heard the voice of God only once... and it was a quarter-century ago. it was three little words that came out of thin air in response to me arguing with Him over what He'd been telling me non-verbally. (and when i say arguing, i was doing mine vocally!) i guess God figured it was the only way to shut me up and get me to listen to Him that time.

but i've never doubted anyone sense who has told me that they've heard His audible voice. and i can also say i've learned to listen to Him (non-audibly) a little more carefully since then.

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i have no bone to pick, and have no intention of fighting. the verse you provided is very accurate. in the past God did speak through prophets and in other ways. in the present He still speaks, through His son. that doesn't mean that it's never audible.

i'm not going to be careful about claiming what i heard though. i don't go around bringing it up out of the blue, but when asked, i'm certainly never going to be afraid of being ridiculed if i admit that i have. it's simply a matter of fact for me. there is no other explanation for what i heard.

(by the way, i'm not accusing you of ridiculing me. i don't blame you for being skeptical. however, i would encourage you not to caution people about admitting their personal experiences.)


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i understand your skepticism. i was skeptical when i heard Him speak myself. but it doesn't change the fact. and as you'll note from my previous post, i said it isn't something God does often, never was. the Bible indicates that it was rare. however, God IS still the same yesterday, today, and forever. can you (or anyone here) provide a single scripture that would indicate that God has changed? i see requests for scriptural proof that He still does speak audibly, but i think a more appropriate question is, where is the scriptural proof that He doesn't?

it doesn't exist.

There's no proof he does, no proof he doesn't do such and such can go down the drain into futility if that is the whole of the argument. I do believe we should be looking for more than that, we should be looking at God's MO. Who has spoken to in the past and why, what significance did it have for the whole of the body or society? What types of things did He say when He audibly spoke to man? And yet, while I know that God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow, however, it is important to remember that He has still changed his method of dealing with mankind over the years. Between the testaments, He stopped speaking through the prophets. He changed his manner of prescribed worship several times, He changed man's diet repeatedly.

I do not remember, and maybe one of our scholarly types here might let me know, did God tell man that He wasn't going to say anything more for a while between the two testaments? This would be an important consideration. If He didn't say anything, that would way heavily toward the notion that He might not have to say He doesn't and it would be more important to see Him say that He will continue. If He did say that He wouldn't speak again for a while, that would indicate that at least in the past He tells us when He is going to stop speaking audibly.

I know of no verse in the NT that says that God never will ever speak audibly to man again. I also know of no promise where He will continue to do so. I do know of the promises we have that He will use the mouths of preachers and the inspiration of the HS through the Word to speak to us. Frankly that should be good enough for any of us.

I believe that it is a good thing to regard the experiential descriptions of others with scepticism because of the fact that they are by nature unverifiable by any unbiased source and often used by others to promote a given agenda. This does not negate the experience of the one retelling, it is a mechanism by which the rest of the world must filter out flummery and lies. Anyone can say they heard from God. You realise how many heretics on TV say that God told them all manner of things that contradict scripture? So, yes, we should be wary.

I have 'heard' the 'voice' of God myself. I do not know if it would be considered audible because it wasn't with my ears, or ears alone anyway, that I heard it. It was in me and outside of me and on me and...it was everywhere and yet....it's hard to describe. But I don't claim that this was an audible hearing because...I'm not sure the hearing actually took place with my ears. I know it was in my spirit and it was compelling to the point I felt it all over my being, even physically. I do not believe my experience is a repeat of Moses or Paul or Samuel, it seems so different for many many reasons. In retrospect, while it seemed very audible at the time, it was actually closer to what I 'heard' in my spirit the day I was saved, but nothing seemed to have been said audibly on that day.


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I think that in any case, if he still does or not, that the circumstances are so rare it would be unlikely any of us would know anyone that it happened to.

That depends on who you are listening to, though. :whistling:

One testimony that continually stands ot to me is that of Craig Scott - one of the students in the library at Columbine High School the day two other students went on a shooting rampage. After the two left the library, he testified that his ears were numb from all the gun fire that had gone one, yet he distinctly herd God's audible voice, "Get out of there!" Because of this, he got up and rallied the other survivors out of the library to safety - which was a good thing because the two students came back to the library and most likely would have finished everyone else off had they been there.

So in essence, it isn't for us to say what God can and cannot do, will and will not do with regards to how He speaks to His people. And the Lord was never interested in our theological bubbles. (But He does have fun popping them!)


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Hey Everyone,

Once again, I'm stumped with a question when someone asked me. I have to be honest, I have always been told that God does not speak to us in an audible voice, and that God primarily speaks through His Word, though the Holy Spirit does work in our hearts, it's the our teacher, convicter, etc. However, I have recently been accused of not believing in the trinity because I said that God does not speak to us audibly today, but I have no scriptural backnig. I'm wondering if anyone can answer this question "Does God speak to us audibly today" (in little or much detail) and whether the answer is yes or no, can you please provide spiritually backing for what you are saying beyond simply that God spoke to people in the Bible. While God doesn't change, how God interacts with us, in a sense, does change. Before Jesus died and rose again, there had to be a blood sacrifice. Hebrews says that we no longer need that anymore because Christ was that perfect sacrifice. That, in fact, did change.... things like that.

Please... I'm open to hearing anyone's answer really at this point :whistling:

In Christ,

Crys

2 Cor 12:9-10

when you asked ,did you mean, GOD THE FATHER, GOD THE SON ,OR GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT .just a question :laugh:


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i want to share this with you , one, i was sharing Jesus with a girl her question was always the same can he talk to me ,she let me pray for her i asked God to talk to her, that night my paster got a phone call in the middle of the night ,this girl gave her life to Jesus that night you see she heard Gods voice, the second thing i want to share is i was asking holy spirit for a direction in my life as i was praying i heard Gods voice saying peace i give you my peace, in our daily life we hear loads of things through our thoughts etc the way iv learnt to know when god talks to me is that he never goes against his word and i have his peace hope that helps :whistling:


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Grace to you,

Back to hearing for a minute. :whistling:

I think that we Christians are often so very distracted that we don't take the time to listen. :laugh:

Then we complain when we are in a situation where we really need to hear from God. We say things like, "I know people hear from God all the time except he never speaks to me."

When I hear this thought audibly I cringe because I know He is speaking to them in many different ways to include audibly. Yet they are confessing a lie that He is not. It is my personal belief that if you believe and speak out that God never speaks to you, He simply won't. :beehive: That's not Word of Faith either it's simply Faith in action.

I was in D.C. recently two blocks from the Whte House Ministering to the Homeless. I looked up between the buildings and asked God if He was there. Just about that moment a huge gush of wind came spiralling down between the buildings and about lifted us off the ground, of course He was there, He sent me. :33: Then a huge Homeless man walked up to me and said something to the effect of, "Be encouraged Minister of God." Then he swiftly disappeared. He was just a homeless man but God both moved physically and spoke audibly in this instance.

I was recently ina revival service where the Minister of God was ablaze on Fire for God. In the midst of this service I asked God to speak audibly to us. I assure you that God could if He wanted and I think we all agree on that point. However the thought that came to my mind in this instance was the Israelites gathered around Sinai when the Lord began to Speak out audibly His Covenant with them. The Mountain Shook violently and the sound of His Voice, Like a Trumpet, the lightening, and smoke scared them to death.

See Exodus 20. :laugh:

Only Moses could go up and speak with the Lord. Then Moses came and gave audibly the message to the Israelites. God spoke and the Israelites heard Him from afar off. Then they heard Him again in the form of Moses.

God can speak audibly, yet somehow I felt that if He did, the roof might come off the tabernacle. So He used the man of God to speak to us in accords with His Word.

Why?

My opinion. :laugh:

He has chosen Himself a Bride and is seeking her to partner with Him in His Glory. We are to reflect His Glory and He is looking to use someone to speak what He has and is speaking to others, nothing incerdibly New you see, but that which has been revealed in Christ, now revealed in us. :laugh:

Is He speaking today? I postulate that He is and He is speaking through His body audibly meanwhile He does speak to us individually even through circumstances, situations, His Word, and audibly one on one, just like He spoke to Moses. When He speaks it better be in accrods with His revealed nature as found in His Word though.

The one very clear thing that Scripture indicates is that we have access to the Throne room and the very presence of God by Grace and through Jesus Christ. This the Hebrews did not yet have the advantage of. Why Moses though?

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