salvation is a process

[Godfearer]

i posted this somewhere else in the forum but i had an unction to post it somewhere else so that more people could see it. idk if this is the correct place to post this so mods please place in correct spot if necassary.

please read all of this as it may help bring you a deeper knowledge of christ. it deals with my experiences and my walk previously. it is about the importance of obedience.

1Ch 28:9 And thou, Solomon my son, know thou the God of thy father, and serve him with a perfect heart and with a willing mind: for the LORD searcheth all hearts, and understandeth all the imaginations of the thoughts: if thou seek him, he will be found of thee; but if thou forsake him, he will cast thee off for ever.

this is the scripture God led me to when i had fallen in sin and then repented. he will give you chance upon chance but there is a point when you can forsake (turn away) Him and he will cast you off forever, as scripture says.

also look into the word dog/dogs in scripture.

2Pe 2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

Pro 26:11 As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly. (backsliding)

Php 3:2 Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision.

before i repented this is the scripture God gave me when i asked for him to speak to me in his word:

Mat 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

this sums up if you can be cast off:

Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

Rev 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

however God always makes a way If we obey and are humble:

Ecc 9:4 For to him that is joined to all the living there is hope: for a living dog is better than a dead lion.

praise God for he is our salvation. obedience is so very important.

Joh 15:14 Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.

[OneLight]

Ephesians 2:8-9 (King James Version)

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Salvation is a gift from God, not something we work for. The gift is free, because Jesus paid the price on the cross.

In His Love,

OneLight

[Guest Honolulu-Dad]

Godfearer,

Mahalo (thank you) for the post.

I think it is important to occasionally be reminded how critical obedience to God is for the Christian.

Romans 6:16 says;

[Matthitjah]

Grace to you,

If we all were perfectly Obedient to God there would be no need for Grace. Be ye careful folks that we preach not a yolk instead of Liberty.

Ro

[Thaddaeus]

OneLight,

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Salvation is a gift from God, not something we work for. The gift is free, because Jesus paid the price on the cross.

But this whole text and context is regarding the salvation from the fall, the work of Christ on the Cross which is given to all men everywhere.

it is not addressing the offer Christ can now make to mankind because of that salvation. He calls all men to repentance. And our response to Him is on what we are judged. It is all about obedience, following, being in concert with God, being conformed to his Image. Keeping our wills in alignment with His will for us for the salvation of our individual souls.

[OneLight]

OneLight,

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Salvation is a gift from God, not something we work for. The gift is free, because Jesus paid the price on the cross.

But this whole text and context is regarding the salvation from the fall, the work of Christ on the Cross which is given to all men everywhere.

it is not addressing the offer Christ can now make to mankind because of that salvation. He calls all men to repentance. And our response to Him is on what we are judged. It is all about obedience, following, being in concert with God, being conformed to his Image. Keeping our wills in alignment with His will for us for the salvation of our individual souls.

Salvation is a gift from God. Maturity in Him is the process, not salvation. If we are to be His for His will, we have to allow Him to finish any work in us that His has to do in order for us to be a vessel fit for Him to use.

[Godfearer]

i think maybe there is a break down in communication. im not saying you are saved by works or denying the cross.

there is a scripture that when you translate it back to greek roots literally reads you have been-being saved.(why i titled it salvation is a process) idk where it is i will look and then come back and post it later.

perhaps the title for my post wasnt the best. i couldnt think of anything better to type for it. originaly the post was made in calvinist vs. arm.... whatever you believe.

the purpose was for this post was importance of obedience. and how you can get out from under Gods grace and how thats not good. basicly to speak to the hearts and consiousness of those not serious about thier salvation. people playing with sin.

in regards to works there is also a scripture that says work out your own salvation with fear and trembeling. which shows it is a process. what do i mean? im saying that all we can do is obey. God did/does the rest.

i am truely sorry if i have mislead you on what im trying to say.

Ephesians 2:8-9 (King James Version)

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Not of works, lest any man should boast. this is talking about doing good to earn salvation. im talking about doing good(obedience) because if you dont obey you fall in sin and you become spiritualy dead. the fellowship between God and us stops.

Edited August 9, 2008 by Godfearer

[Guest]

This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.

Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you. John 15:12-14

i am truely sorry if i have mislead you on what im trying to say.

[~pearl]

Are you referring to backslidding?

[OneLight]

perhaps the title for my post wasnt the best.

I will admit that your title was the base of how I read your post. For the confusion, I also am sorry.