Sinlessness

[WayneB]

Yes, SBG, she's my grandchild. The first! She was born Thursday.

Congratulations!!!!!

Wow! She is really beautiful. I ain't just saying that!

[WayneB]

Yeah Bro Wayne,

I guess you're right. I just never ever thought this subject was an issue 'tll this thread started. Guess I was wrong, again!!!

Thanx for showing me another viewpoint, your viewpoint!

Love you Bro,

John

Ya' know my dear brother, that is what makes you special. Thank you for your kindness and pure heart. You set a great example for the rest of us. I love you too John.

[WayneB]

I have to clarify why "I" was one of those 20% who said it is possible to live a sinless life....

I don't believe for one moment that any of US can live a sinless life.

I responded the way I did ONLY because the question didn't clarify the AGE of the person...as I believe that infants and severely mentally incompetant people are NOT capable of sinning and I supported my position with a verse of scripture quoted from the Lord Jesus himself.

Ya know Cats, I had not thought of that when I answered the poll. You looked beyond the obvious and went deeper than I did. You are 100% correct ...and thanks for the explanation.

BUT...I don't think the other 20% answered for the same reason. There are many misguided saints in the flesh who believe that perfection has come and imperfection has disappeared? Not so.

Well, once again you have given me something to ponder on.

Bless you sister,

Wayne

[Guest LCPGUY]

Yeah Bro Wayne,

I guess you're right. I just never ever thought this subject was an issue 'tll this thread started. Guess I was wrong, again!!!

Thanx for showing me another viewpoint, your viewpoint!

Love you Bro,

John

Ya' know my dear brother, that is what makes you special. Thank you for your kindness and pure heart. You set a great example for the rest of us. I love you too John.

Awwww... Wayne,

You're just way to kind. :il: :il: :il:

Thanks for your thoughts and words Bro. Believe me, there's nuttin' special about me.

Wayne, you're the man! You rock... For Jesus.

Thanx again Bro!

In His Love,

John

[Khristeeanos]

I can't believe this topic is still ongoing

It's been a long one, huh?

ted,

Yes, I agree.

I started this thread to talk, not about is it possible to EVER not sin. That is absurd because ALL have sinned.

I was asking the question, "Can we become holy in our behavior?"

I did a very poor job of phrasing this from the get-go.

After this thread became a shouting match, I quit posting. It has been days since I even looked at this thread for that reason. I don't want to divide us.

I was trying to show that God's grace is opportinity to abstain from sin.

I guess I have failed because we all misunderstand the opposite position, and then misrepresent it because of that misunderstanding.

For that I apologize.

God bless you all.

[ted]

Nah, just the same old WB debates. It should be our goal to live according to His Word and strive for a sinless life. I just don't feel capable, is all

God Bless you too, sir.

t.

[Adstar]

Hello Catz :il:

I don't believe for one moment that any of US can live a sinless life.

I responded the way I did ONLY because the question didn't clarify the AGE of the person...as I believe that infants and severely mentally incompetant people are NOT capable of sinning and I supported my position with a verse of scripture quoted from the Lord Jesus himself.

Well said Sis I never though of that. looks like you took some time to think over your answer

All Praise The Ancient Of Days

[keslc]

2) If someone came to me with a computer that has "fallen of the back of a truck" ie stolen and offered to sell it to me for lets say $100 dollars. Now if i think to myself "well i know this is stolen but its soo cheap and i really would like to have a new computer" and for a moment i actually think of paying the money for it. but then i grab myself and think to myself "No that has been stolen off someone and it is not right for me to buy it off this thief", that

[keslc]

Cats, thanks for explaining your reasoning in the poll! I, too, agree with you 200% there!! I am so glad we serve a loving and JUST God!

BTW, Calamity, your granddaughter is beautiful!!

[Catsmeow]

No, no, no....a fleeting thought can be tempting but it's not a sin. It's only a sin when we dwell on it...

That's when it becomes a sin...when we contemplate it and give it life...then soon enough it leads to a behavior or action on our parts which is sin fully birthed.

The fact that a fleeting thought goes into our head isn't a sin..

I remember when I, by NO fault of my own, was sent a pornographic (very gross) photograph on my email. I had NO CLUE it was porno till I opened it.

Now, I certainly didn't sin even though I saw the picture. I deleted it promptly and set my filter to "HIGH" so I wouldn't have that happen again.

I hardly think when we are tempted we are sinning. That's just silly! It's whether we nurture that thought and dwell on it.

My gosh...I was tempted to buy a used car once and have them write the sale price as lower so I'd save on taxes. The salesman suggested that...and for one moment, I thought about his offer.

Then I said, "Nope...that would be dishonest." So we did the right thing but I was still given the temptation to sin. I didn't sin, however and feel absolutely confident that I was in God's will because I rejected the temptation to do wrong.

Likewise, Jesus also felt hungry and was tempted to have a piece of bread. It wouldn't have been a temptation if he wasn't in the least bit hungry.

He was tested...and testing comes when a person is tempted. When they RESIST temptation, they have victory over sin. If they indulge the thought, they will eventually cave in and do the behavior.