Zodiac and Christianity

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The Holy Spirit

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

2 Timothy 3:16

Shows Us Preacher Man Enoch Speaking Forth God's Words

And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,

[15] To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.

Jude 1:14-15

And The Words Of The LORD Jesus Christ

Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

John 3:3

Tells Us What We Must Do

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

John 5:24

To Have Peace

These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

John 16:33

Dine In

Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

Revelation 3:20

With The KING

[glorywatch]

Although the heavens do declare the glory of God, they do not proclaim the gospel. The gospel was revealed to man by God Himself, who spoke through the prophets and came to earth in the person of Jesus Christ. The apparent arrangement of the stars in the sky is a function of the human brain, which tries to find patterns in everything it interprets. Depending upon one's background and society, different shapes of objects are seen as constellations. None of the constellations make such a clear picture that they could only be interpreted only one way.

Studying the stars to attempt to get some message from them is called astrology, and is expressly prohibited in the Bible. Christians should not dabble in astrology, even if they don't really believe it is true. Trust God with your future and follow Him in obedience to His word.

"Do not let your hearts be troubled. Trust in God; trust also in Me." (Jesus Christ, John 14:1)

[nebula]

Studying the stars to attempt to get some message from them is called astrology,

I disagree with that.

Let me make a comparison. A sand dollar is a sea creature whose shell has been used to preach the Gospel. See here for the poem that explains how.

So, if we can see the Gospel in a sea creture, why can we not see the Gospel in the position of the stars?

Likewise, astrology is about foretelling the future, finding meaning and direction for your life, and things like that. Looking for God's plan of redemption in what He has made does not fit into this category.

[LadyRaven]

Likewise, astrology is about foretelling the future, finding meaning and direction for your life, and things like that. Looking for God's plan of redemption in what He has made does not fit into this category.

not wanting to pick-nits with you, but isnt looking for God's plan of redemption sort of like trying to find meaning and direction for your life?

I dont know if this is strict astrology or not, but I think it comes too close to the line and I would not feel comfortable at all using this to spread the Gospel. There are just too many other ways that dont lead to so many questions.

No, see, those of us who are already saved dont need to find meaning and direction for our lives. Those who are not saved, are not looking for the gospel in the stars or in sand dollars or matzo crackers (Christ in passover) or whatever we tend to use to speak with the lost. These things are tools, like the Fibonacci numbers and etc., which can be used to teach about Christ if we wish to use them and which just exist if we do not wish to do so. St Patrick used a shamrock to teach about Christ. The book Peace Child is about a missionary using a very barbaric custom to explain the gospel. When discussing things with pagans, I have used some of their own customs and explained how this was a residual memory of the gospel or some other spiritual truth that got perverted by sin.

There is no requirement to do this, if it seems too close to paganism for you then dont use it, find some other way of communicating the gospel. It's not astrology, it's looking at the stars and finding patterns that some have decided can have one meaning over against the meaning others have given them. We're not even talking about a point of doctrine, this is something that really isn't important in the grand scheme of things. Its not in scripture, its not a command or the violation of one.

[glorywatch]

Studying the stars to attempt to get some message from them is called astrology,

I disagree with that.

Let me make a comparison. A sand dollar is a sea creature whose shell has been used to preach the Gospel. See here for the poem that explains how.

So, if we can see the Gospel in a sea creture, why can we not see the Gospel in the position of the stars?

Likewise, astrology is about foretelling the future, finding meaning and direction for your life, and things like that. Looking for God's plan of redemption in what He has made does not fit into this category.

That's ok if you disagree. I don't see why anyone needs to look to the stars, sand dollars or any "THING" for the Gospel, when it has already come in the person of Jesus Christ and God has handed us the "Good News" in his Word. No need to look elsewhere.

[victory777]

iv been reading with interest , i just want to share this, looking at the stars to see part of Gods creation is fine , but we have to be very carefull ,im aware what happens when we cross the line, before the lord saved me i was a fortune teller etc he set me wonderfully free, i for one am not going anywhere near that road again

[simpleword]

It is o.k. to check the sky and time of moon,yet to get caught up in it is a little dumb,I have seen red skies in the morning yet it did not rain that day,so it is smart to know that the chances of rain are high,but even smarter to know that the time of the Lord's return is so very very close,

Matthew 16:3,And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowering. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?

[nebula]

Just to stir up the pot a bit . . .

How did the Lord bring the Magi to Bethlehem?

[speckles]

Studying the stars to attempt to get some message from them is called astrology,

I disagree with that.

Let me make a comparison. A sand dollar is a sea creature whose shell has been used to preach the Gospel. See here for the poem that explains how.

So, if we can see the Gospel in a sea creture, why can we not see the Gospel in the position of the stars?

Likewise, astrology is about foretelling the future, finding meaning and direction for your life, and things like that. Looking for God's plan of redemption in what He has made does not fit into this category.

That's ok if you disagree. I don't see why anyone needs to look to the stars, sand dollars or any "THING" for the Gospel, when it has already come in the person of Jesus Christ and God has handed us the "Good News" in his Word. No need to look elsewhere.

Just about anything can be directed toward speaking the gospel if you are adept enough at it and are creative enough to notice something few others notice. I used Jelly Beans once in Sunday School. One woman in our church used a watermelon. Nobody has to use these things but hey, why not if they are memorable...particularly with children and with those who are not saved. They might not be open to scripture but open to the watermelon...

[Guest shiloh357]

Studying the stars to attempt to get some message from them is called astrology,

I disagree with that.

Let me make a comparison. A sand dollar is a sea creature whose shell has been used to preach the Gospel. See here for the poem that explains how.

So, if we can see the Gospel in a sea creture, why can we not see the Gospel in the position of the stars?

Likewise, astrology is about foretelling the future, finding meaning and direction for your life, and things like that. Looking for God's plan of redemption in what He has made does not fit into this category.

That's ok if you disagree. I don't see why anyone needs to look to the stars, sand dollars or any "THING" for the Gospel, when it has already come in the person of Jesus Christ and God has handed us the "Good News" in his Word. No need to look elsewhere.

God has given us all kinds of object lessons in nature to teach us about Himself. It isn't about "needing" to look at the stars or sand dollars, but it is always amazing to see how God's signature is on every part of creation and to see how that every aspect of creation testifies of its Creator. This includes the luminaries.

I understand the need to avoid any occultic connections, but Satan cannot conterfeit something that is not real to begin with. Reasonable people will not throw the good out with the bad.