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Receive it by believing that God is telling you the truth--you have your healing already in your spirit--now believe it and receive it in your body.

so, you are saying they dont receive it because they dont believe it.

in other words, they are not healed due to a lack of faith.

It isn't a bad thing to lack faith--it isn't a blame game. We are all operating an different levels of faith in one area or another. This blaming thing is getting in the way of people receiving truth about their healing that is already won for them on the cross of Jesus Christ by His stripes. We take pity on all who are sick and we also take pity on those who are not appropriating their healing for whatever reason--faithlessness, or ignorance of what God teaches us about healing. We all are called to come up higher... no one is pointing fingers of derision at anyone.

I refuse to get into the blame game, for that is not my intent. It is a faith and belief issue, and many, many people just don't understand the biblical principles for healing. I am truly only beginning to really understand some of them, and I know that God's will is not that any be sick. Anyone who believes that and becomes ill will be sinning against God if he or she ever asks for prayer for healing or goes to the doctor to try and get well. so, God wants us all to be well and to enjoy the life that Jesus died to give us.

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We already have our healing. we need to receive it. God is no respecter of persons.

All God tells us is we will be healed...He makes no mention of when.

It takes time, but it is coming, because we already have it. We have simply lay hold of it.

if you find the time, could you offer the scripture background for this?

Our healing is in the Atonement. Simple. We have it in our born again spirits--perfect and holy and in receipt of all of God's good things already. We have only to take them.

Isaiah 43:5

But He was wounded for our transgressions,

He was bruised for our iniquities;

The chastisement for our peace was upon Him,

And by His stripes we are healed.

1 Peter 2:24

He personally carried our sins

in his body on the cross

so that we can be dead to sin

and live for what is right.

By his wounds

you are healed.


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It isn't a bad thing to lack faith--it isn't a blame game. We are all operating an different levels of faith in one area or another. This blaming thing is getting in the way of people receiving truth about their healing that is already won for them on the cross of Jesus Christ by His stripes. We take pity on all who are sick and we also take pity on those who are not appropriating their healing for whatever reason--faithlessness, or ignorance of what God teaches us about healing. We all are called to come up higher... no one is pointing fingers of derision at anyone.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

"no one is pointing fingers of derision at those faithless or ignorant people"

:thumbsup:

I don't find your derision funny. You make it extremely difficult to maintain civility by your mockery. If you desire a proper discussion here, then stop it.

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We already have our healing. we need to receive it. God is no respecter of persons.

All God tells us is we will be healed...He makes no mention of when.

It takes time, but it is coming, because we already have it. We have simply lay hold of it.

if you find the time, could you offer the scripture background for this?

Our healing is in the Atonement. Simple. We have it in our born again spirits--perfect and holy and in receipt of all of God's good things already. We have only to take them.

Isaiah 43:5

But He was wounded for our transgressions,

He was bruised for our iniquities;

The chastisement for our peace was upon Him,

And by His stripes we are healed.

1 Peter 2:24

He personally carried our sins

in his body on the cross

so that we can be dead to sin

and live for what is right.

By his wounds

you are healed.


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It isn't a bad thing to lack faith--it isn't a blame game. We are all operating an different levels of faith in one area or another. This blaming thing is getting in the way of people receiving truth about their healing that is already won for them on the cross of Jesus Christ by His stripes. We take pity on all who are sick and we also take pity on those who are not appropriating their healing for whatever reason--faithlessness, or ignorance of what God teaches us about healing. We all are called to come up higher... no one is pointing fingers of derision at anyone.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

"no one is pointing fingers of derision at those faithless or ignorant people"

:thumbsup:

I don't find your derision funny. You make it extremely difficult to maintain civility by your mockery. If you desire a proper discussion here, then stop it.

you call people that have a serious medical condition either faithless or ignorant and then you have the gall to speak of my derision.

my wife suffers from clinical depression and it was people like you that made her wait so long to get medical help. Too bad you cant see that she had faith in God to lead her to a doctor that could help her, it was her faith that God made doctors for a reason that led her to get help.

You have no idea what I am saying. By all means, go to a doctor. God doesn't will a person to be sick.


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if you find the time, could you offer the scripture background for this?

Our healing is in the Atonement. Simple. We have it in our born again spirits--perfect and holy and in receipt of all of God's good things already. We have only to take them.

Isaiah 43:5

But He was wounded for our transgressions,

He was bruised for our iniquities;

The chastisement for our peace was upon Him,

And by His stripes we are healed.

1 Peter 2:24

He personally carried our sins

in his body on the cross

so that we can be dead to sin

and live for what is right.

By his wounds

you are healed.

All of your quotes refer to being healed from sin, not sickness.


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Receive it by believing that God is telling you the truth--you have your healing already in your spirit--now believe it and receive it in your body.

so, you are saying they dont receive it because they dont believe it.

in other words, they are not healed due to a lack of faith.

It isn't a bad thing to lack faith--it isn't a blame game. We are all operating an different levels of faith in one area or another. This blaming thing is getting in the way of people receiving truth about their healing that is already won for them on the cross of Jesus Christ by His stripes. We take pity on all who are sick and we also take pity on those who are not appropriating their healing for whatever reason--faithlessness, or ignorance of what God teaches us about healing. We all are called to come up higher... no one is pointing fingers of derision at anyone.

I refuse to get into the blame game, for that is not my intent. It is a faith and belief issue, and many, many people just don't understand the biblical principles for healing. I am truly only beginning to really understand some of them, and I know that God's will is not that any be sick. Anyone who believes that and becomes ill will be sinning against God if he or she ever asks for prayer for healing or goes to the doctor to try and get well. so, God wants us all to be well and to enjoy the life that Jesus died to give us.

God never promised we would be healed in our lifetimes.....as I stated before...sometimes total and complete healing is only recieved upon death.


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1 Timothy 5

23 Drink water no longer, but use a little wine for your stomach's sake, and for your frequent infirmities.

So in the bible, the word of God, whom He is able to preserve. Whom He states is for

2 Timothy 3

16 All Scripture is God-breathed, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,

17 that the man of God may be perfected, thoroughly furnished to every good work.

Paul wrote this to Timothy, a recommendation to drink wine for his infirmities. Why didnt God direct Paul to admonish Timothy to just have faith and believe his infirmities will be healed. After all, Paul was showing Timothy how to be a model preacher. Wouldnt divine healing through word of faith be a part of it IF wof was true?

Axe, please address this.


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if you find the time, could you offer the scripture background for this?

Our healing is in the Atonement. Simple. We have it in our born again spirits--perfect and holy and in receipt of all of God's good things already. We have only to take them.

Isaiah 43:5

But He was wounded for our transgressions,

He was bruised for our iniquities;

The chastisement for our peace was upon Him,

And by His stripes we are healed.

1 Peter 2:24

He personally carried our sins

in his body on the cross

so that we can be dead to sin

and live for what is right.

By his wounds

you are healed.

All of your quotes refer to being healed from sin, not sickness.

That's wrong teaching.


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Receive it by believing that God is telling you the truth--you have your healing already in your spirit--now believe it and receive it in your body.

so, you are saying they dont receive it because they dont believe it.

in other words, they are not healed due to a lack of faith.

It isn't a bad thing to lack faith--it isn't a blame game. We are all operating an different levels of faith in one area or another. This blaming thing is getting in the way of people receiving truth about their healing that is already won for them on the cross of Jesus Christ by His stripes. We take pity on all who are sick and we also take pity on those who are not appropriating their healing for whatever reason--faithlessness, or ignorance of what God teaches us about healing. We all are called to come up higher... no one is pointing fingers of derision at anyone.

I refuse to get into the blame game, for that is not my intent. It is a faith and belief issue, and many, many people just don't understand the biblical principles for healing. I am truly only beginning to really understand some of them, and I know that God's will is not that any be sick. Anyone who believes that and becomes ill will be sinning against God if he or she ever asks for prayer for healing or goes to the doctor to try and get well. so, God wants us all to be well and to enjoy the life that Jesus died to give us.

God never promised we would be healed in our lifetimes.....as I stated before...sometimes total and complete healing is only recieved upon death.

When our lives are over, we receive our crowns of victory, yes. But we have our healing here, if we will only receive it.

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