Jehovah of the Old testament became Jesus of the New.

[HAZARD]

Questions asked asked?

QUOTE

"So, if Jesus sit on the throne and He sits on the right hand of God the Father, is it a bench-style throne or is the Father standing?

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Talk about the blind leading the blind?

"Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch" (Matt. 15:14).

Instead of searching the Scriptures some blindly go ahead and they mock God at their own peril attempting to get a cheep laugh? "

A brutish man knoweth not; neither doth a fool understand this" (Psl. 92:6).

"It is as sport to a fool to do mischief: but a man of understanding hath wisdom" (Proverbs 10:23).

"Every prudent man dealeth with knowledge: but a fool layeth open his folly" (Proverbs 13:16).

QUOTE

"If there are two God's why is there only one throne?

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Here is a scripture which mentions two thrones; Jesus mentions His and His fathers throne in the one Scripture.

"To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne" (Rev. 3:21).

Only a fool would deny Christ, the Word who was God and was with God the Father and who became flesh. And only a fool would deny Christ now who sits at His Fathers right hand in Heaven when the Scriptures clearly teach this fact.

"But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven" (Matthew 10:33).

God the Father is a spirit being and always remaind a spirit being in Heaven; " But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven" (Matt. 10:33), whilst Christ was on the earth. "God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth" (John 4:24).

Jesus was resurrected in His glorified flesh and bone body; "Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have" (Luke 24:39).

Many Scriptures teach that God rules from His Throne in Heaven, and Jesus now sits at the Fathers right hand; " Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens; (Hebrews 8:1).

"Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God" (Hebrews 12:2).

"To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne" (Rev. 3:21). Here Christ mentions His Throne and the fact that it is set down next to His Fathers Throne. And we that overcome are granted to sit with Christ as He sits with His Father.

"So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God" (Mark 16:19).

"Hereafter shall the Son of man sit on the right hand of the power of God" (Luke 22:69).

The Father, in Heaven raised up Jesus who died on the cross and who was buried in the Earth for three days and three nights.

"Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;" (Acts 2:30).

[Ovedya]

Doubtful that HAZ will respond to me, but here's the problem:

Talk about the blind leading the blind?

That's just flat out insulting to anyone who wishes to participate in this discussion. Genuinely asked questions and comments, without any sort of precondition or pretense are immediately rebuked with the assertion that they are blind and foolish. This closes off profitable discussion and builds walls between us.

Here is a scripture which mentions two thrones; Jesus mentions His and His fathers throne in the one Scripture.

"To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne" (Rev. 3:21).

Actually this only mentions one throne. Jesus, in resurrection sits "in the throne" of the Father, not "on a throne next to it." Therefore, the throne which Jesus is speaking with regard to Himself is actually the throne of the Father, in which He is sitting.

So, since HAZARD will not respond to me directly, would someone kindly repeat my message?

[traveller]

Doubtful that HAZ will respond to me, but here's the problem:

Talk about the blind leading the blind?

That's just flat out insulting to anyone who wishes to participate in this discussion. Genuinely asked questions and comments, without any sort of precondition or pretense are immediately rebuked with the assertion that they are blind and foolish. This closes off profitable discussion and builds walls between us.

Here is a scripture which mentions two thrones; Jesus mentions His and His fathers throne in the one Scripture.

"To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne" (Rev. 3:21).

Actually this only mentions one throne. Jesus, in resurrection sits "in the throne" of the Father, not "on a throne next to it." Therefore, the throne which Jesus is speaking with regard to Himself is actually the throne of the Father, in which He is sitting.

So, since HAZARD will not respond to me directly, would someone kindly repeat my message?

HAZ - do you see the quoted post? And have you placed a moderator on ignore?

[traveller]

I absolutely believe that the Creator has protected His word to come down through the ages to us for our good. While I am not opposed to studying outside sources, especially as BlindSeeker has mentioned, our bible is our plumbline. If I didn't think our Almighty God could protect His very word to reach my eyes, then I wouldn't put much cotton in His other powers.

I know there are translation error - but His Holy Spirit is able to "talk" to me as I pour over His word, to teach and to guide.

[BlindSeeker]

Doubtful that HAZ will respond to me, but here's the problem:

Talk about the blind leading the blind?

That's just flat out insulting to anyone who wishes to participate in this discussion. Genuinely asked questions and comments, without any sort of precondition or pretense are immediately rebuked with the assertion that they are blind and foolish. This closes off profitable discussion and builds walls between us.

I'm sure it is another jab at me because of my name since it was in response to my quote. With any luck he'll out me on "ignore" as well.

Pretty soon he'll just think he's posting all alone.

[BlindSeeker]

This is a very dangerous road to start down. If we can

Edited October 10, 2008 by BlindSeeker

[BlindSeeker]

. . . only a fool would deny Christ now who sits at His Fathers right hand in Heaven when the Scriptures clearly teach this fact.

It doesn't say "at," it says "in."

It's positional, not directional

[Ovedya]

. . . only a fool would deny Christ now who sits at His Fathers right hand in Heaven when the Scriptures clearly teach this fact.

It doesn't say "at," it says "in."

It's positional, not directional

...And actually it's metaphorical. If I remember correctly those verses in the New Testament which use the positional term, as you mentioned, the word is "on." Jesus sits "on"the right hand of the Father. I could be wrong, because, frankly, I'm too tired to stare at my monitor for very much longer, so I haven't looked it up. Obviously Jesus is not literally sitting "on" the right hand of the Father (Otherwise He'd say, "Hey, you're sitting on my hand, do you mind?)

[BlindSeeker]

This is a very dangerous road to start down. If we can

[traveller]

This is a very dangerous road to start down. If we can