Marriage

[Guest HIS girl]

Because.

As I expected.

[Guest zabby]

What I'm wondering is why you have given this man 12 of the best years of your life? IF you are living together, you need to leave, now! If you are a Christian, that is what the Bible says you should do. You can't find it in the Bible that you have to be married because it's not there. Don't waste any more of your life. If he is going to come to the Lord, he will anyway, and you don't want to be a stumbling block by living in sin.

I'm really glad I never come here for advice.

You know man, sometimes the truth hurts but if it's going to save someone from eternal separation from God, then it needs to be said and the temporary hurt is worth it. We can only be complacent for so long before we run into trouble.

Actually the truth doesn't hurt.

Do you see what I highlighted?

G.A.P stated that she loved that man. She came here looking for advice only to have someone question why she wasted 12 years of her life on someone she's in love with.

That's not advice. That's not something I would want to hear if I was the one doing the asking. It's just rude.

I never said she shouldn't get married. I actually didn't give her any advice. I was in her shoes at one time. Like her, it was 12 years. 11 1/2 of those years were very happy years. I wouldn't trade'em for anything. As bad as the last 6 months were, I wouldn't even trade them, because it was at that time, when I was at my lowest I have ever been that God touched me. He showed me things and did things for me that I never thought were possible and He hasn't stopped.

I'm not gonna tell her what she should do. She knows. All she has to do is make a decision.

You all say she's sinning. Name one person on this board that ain't.

There is old saying... When you find that you have worked yourself into a hole, the first thing you do is stop digging. If she is living in sin, then the first thing she needs to do is stop and repent. It really is that simple.

The advice may not be what a person WANTS to hear, but you do a greater disservice by not telling the truth and giving accurate advice.

Doctors don't like telling their patients they have cancer or they are a walking heart attack. But they have to tell the truth, no matter how unpleasant it is.

Agreed.

So why didn't you agree with me????

I am not sure what you are talking about that I did not agree with. This individual ask where in the Bible does it say she should marry a man she has been living with for 12 years is found in I corinthians 7... in that chapter it reads that it is better to marry than to burn...... I wasn't telling her or him to make a decision one way or the the other only what the bible says her /his decision is completely theirs.... I to would not come here for advice I got to the Lord Jesus and His Holy Word. If you agree with that then I agree with you if not then you have the right to your opinion as do I. I intended no offense.........

[Guest man]

What I'm wondering is why you have given this man 12 of the best years of your life? IF you are living together, you need to leave, now! If you are a Christian, that is what the Bible says you should do. You can't find it in the Bible that you have to be married because it's not there. Don't waste any more of your life. If he is going to come to the Lord, he will anyway, and you don't want to be a stumbling block by living in sin.

I'm really glad I never come here for advice.

You know man, sometimes the truth hurts but if it's going to save someone from eternal separation from God, then it needs to be said and the temporary hurt is worth it. We can only be complacent for so long before we run into trouble.

Because.

As I expected.

You still don't get it.

These 2 statements were made, "What I'm wondering is why you have given this man 12 of the best years of your life?" and "Don't waste any more of your life."

How is that being truthful? How are those 2 statements going to save someone from eternal separation from God?

Those 2 statements are what I was commenting on, nothing else. That's why I highlighted them.

Your reply to me and shiloh357's reply to to me were nowhere near the same.

I never said she shouldn't get married. This is actually what I said concerning her situation. "I'm not gonna tell her what she should do. She knows. All she has to do is make a decision."

The reason I said that was because I was in that same situation at one time and there wasn't anything anyone could've said to me to change my mind. I had to make a decision, and I did. Actually God made it for me.

I believe she knows what she has to do. She came here looking for confirmation, only to be put down and ripped on.

If what I commented on is godly advice, then I must be doing something wrong.

[Guest zabby]

What I'm wondering is why you have given this man 12 of the best years of your life? IF you are living together, you need to leave, now! If you are a Christian, that is what the Bible says you should do. You can't find it in the Bible that you have to be married because it's not there. Don't waste any more of your life. If he is going to come to the Lord, he will anyway, and you don't want to be a stumbling block by living in sin.

I'm really glad I never come here for advice.

You know man, sometimes the truth hurts but if it's going to save someone from eternal separation from God, then it needs to be said and the temporary hurt is worth it. We can only be complacent for so long before we run into trouble.

Because.

As I expected.

You still don't get it.

These 2 statements were made, "What I'm wondering is why you have given this man 12 of the best years of your life?" and "Don't waste any more of your life."

How is that being truthful? How are those 2 statements going to save someone from eternal separation from God?

Those 2 statements are what I was commenting on, nothing else. That's why I highlighted them.

Your reply to me and shiloh357's reply to to me were nowhere near the same.

I never said she shouldn't get married. This is actually what I said concerning her situation. "I'm not gonna tell her what she should do. She knows. All she has to do is make a decision."

The reason I said that was because I was in that same situation at one time and there wasn't anything anyone could've said to me to change my mind. I had to make a decision, and I did. Actually God made it for me.

I believe she knows what she has to do. She came here looking for confirmation, only to be put down and ripped on.

If what I commented on is godly advice, then I must be doing something wrong.

I did see and do see your highlighted statements. I have also at one time been in the situation. I did not rip her up at all. She ask for scripture that is what I gave her Scripture. You man are very rude it seems to me. There is no need for that. I am just learning this forum and trying to particpate but you are just rude. The stateent "you just don't get it" was un needed - you may as well have called me stupid... In things evil may I be stupid always.... and In things righteous may I continue to learn and grow more and more. Sir I have given you no reason to speak to me in the tone you have chosen to use. I am sorry most of all for you.

[Guest man]

What I'm wondering is why you have given this man 12 of the best years of your life? IF you are living together, you need to leave, now! If you are a Christian, that is what the Bible says you should do. You can't find it in the Bible that you have to be married because it's not there. Don't waste any more of your life. If he is going to come to the Lord, he will anyway, and you don't want to be a stumbling block by living in sin.

I'm really glad I never come here for advice.

You know man, sometimes the truth hurts but if it's going to save someone from eternal separation from God, then it needs to be said and the temporary hurt is worth it. We can only be complacent for so long before we run into trouble.

Because.

As I expected.

You still don't get it.

These 2 statements were made, "What I'm wondering is why you have given this man 12 of the best years of your life?" and "Don't waste any more of your life."

How is that being truthful? How are those 2 statements going to save someone from eternal separation from God?

Those 2 statements are what I was commenting on, nothing else. That's why I highlighted them.

Your reply to me and shiloh357's reply to to me were nowhere near the same.

I never said she shouldn't get married. This is actually what I said concerning her situation. "I'm not gonna tell her what she should do. She knows. All she has to do is make a decision."

The reason I said that was because I was in that same situation at one time and there wasn't anything anyone could've said to me to change my mind. I had to make a decision, and I did. Actually God made it for me.

I believe she knows what she has to do. She came here looking for confirmation, only to be put down and ripped on.

If what I commented on is godly advice, then I must be doing something wrong.

I did see and do see your highlighted statements. I have also at one time been in the situation. I did not rip her up at all. She ask for scripture that is what I gave her Scripture. You man are very rude it seems to me. There is no need for that. I am just learning this forum and trying to particpate but you are just rude. The stateent "you just don't get it" was un needed - you may as well have called me stupid... In things evil may I be stupid always.... and In things righteous may I continue to learn and grow more and more. Sir I have given you no reason to speak to me in the tone you have chosen to use. I am sorry most of all for you.

zabby,

This is the first time I've ever responded to one of your posts.

Unless you have multiple usernames on these boards, I have never said anything to you.

[Guest HIS girl]

These 2 statements were made, "What I'm wondering is why you have given this man 12 of the best years of your life?" and "Don't waste any more of your life."

These statements may not have been said with flowery wording etc but the fact remains that living in sin (fornication) is disobedience to God.

Why pretty it up when there is eternal seperation at stake here?

I DO talk from experience also man, if you read my first response in this thread you will see why I think this way.

[Guest man]

These 2 statements were made, "What I'm wondering is why you have given this man 12 of the best years of your life?" and "Don't waste any more of your life."

These statements may not have been said with flowery wording etc but the fact remains that living in sin (fornication) is disobedience to God.

Why pretty it up when there is eternal seperation at stake here?

I DO talk from experience also man, if you read my first response in this thread you will see why I think this way.

This from your 1st post in this thread.

Hi G.A.P

I was once in a similar position but I did not stay with the person as I was convicted by God to part ways with him.

HOWEVER - every situation is different and God deals differently with each person but one thing remains the same.

Do you see what you did there?

"HOWEVER", all in caps as if to shout it out to make a point. Then you say that every situation is different, which means her situation is probably different from the situation you were in.

But then you did go on to say this.

I'll put forward some notes from the NKJ study Bible:

Fornication is sex between 2 unmarried people. The apostle Paul said this is a sin against the body. He commands Christians to flee fornication as a sin against self and God, for the Believer's body is the temple of the Holy Spirit (1 Cor 6:18,19)

It is very important to understand that neither fornicators and adulterers will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. (1 Cor 6:9,10).

Can you give me the definition of a biblical marriage?

Where in the bible does it state how a marriage ceremony is to be conducted?

According to the bible, what is required to show that 2 people are married?

[Guest zabby]

What I'm wondering is why you have given this man 12 of the best years of your life? IF you are living together, you need to leave, now! If you are a Christian, that is what the Bible says you should do. You can't find it in the Bible that you have to be married because it's not there. Don't waste any more of your life. If he is going to come to the Lord, he will anyway, and you don't want to be a stumbling block by living in sin.

I'm really glad I never come here for advice.

You know man, sometimes the truth hurts but if it's going to save someone from eternal separation from God, then it needs to be said and the temporary hurt is worth it. We can only be complacent for so long before we run into trouble.

Actually the truth doesn't hurt.

Do you see what I highlighted?

G.A.P stated that she loved that man. She came here looking for advice only to have someone question why she wasted 12 years of her life on someone she's in love with.

That's not advice. That's not something I would want to hear if I was the one doing the asking. It's just rude.

I never said she shouldn't get married. I actually didn't give her any advice. I was in her shoes at one time. Like her, it was 12 years. 11 1/2 of those years were very happy years. I wouldn't trade'em for anything. As bad as the last 6 months were, I wouldn't even trade them, because it was at that time, when I was at my lowest I have ever been that God touched me. He showed me things and did things for me that I never thought were possible and He hasn't stopped.

I'm not gonna tell her what she should do. She knows. All she has to do is make a decision.

You all say she's sinning. Name one person on this board that ain't.

There is old saying... When you find that you have worked yourself into a hole, the first thing you do is stop digging. If she is living in sin, then the first thing she needs to do is stop and repent. It really is that simple.

The advice may not be what a person WANTS to hear, but you do a greater disservice by not telling the truth and giving accurate advice.

Doctors don't like telling their patients they have cancer or they are a walking heart attack. But they have to tell the truth, no matter how unpleasant it is.

Agreed.

So why didn't you agree with me????

His

This is where my computor brings me when I click on the link provided by the Worthy Christian Forum and says you responded to me. I hope this is correct. Listen I have been very sick these last two weeks, The only response I remember giving to the individual living with a man for 12 yrs was I Corint. 7 the whole chapter. If it makes anyone feel any better I too lived with a man once until the Holy Spirit broke it up. My heart was broken. My oldest daughter is on her way to her wedding even as we speak but has been living with this man for a while now. Finally they are making things right in the sight of God and my other daughter also followed my bad example before she married and lived with the man... I am a sinner saved by His Grace and grateful for it. AS for reading these posts I do not think I am very good at it. I do know that I do not want to even waste my time with rude mean people. life is to short. If you got my post that was meant for man I am sorry.

[Guest HIS girl]

These 2 statements were made, "What I'm wondering is why you have given this man 12 of the best years of your life?" and "Don't waste any more of your life."

These statements may not have been said with flowery wording etc but the fact remains that living in sin (fornication) is disobedience to God.

Why pretty it up when there is eternal seperation at stake here?

I DO talk from experience also man, if you read my first response in this thread you will see why I think this way.

This from your 1st post in this thread.

Hi G.A.P

I was once in a similar position but I did not stay with the person as I was convicted by God to part ways with him.

HOWEVER - every situation is different and God deals differently with each person but one thing remains the same.

Do you see what you did there?

"HOWEVER", all in caps as if to shout it out to make a point. Then you say that every situation is different, which means her situation is probably different from the situation you were in.

But then you did go on to say this.

I'll put forward some notes from the NKJ study Bible:

Fornication is sex between 2 unmarried people. The apostle Paul said this is a sin against the body. He commands Christians to flee fornication as a sin against self and God, for the Believer's body is the temple of the Holy Spirit (1 Cor 6:18,19)

It is very important to understand that neither fornicators and adulterers will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. (1 Cor 6:9,10).

Can you give me the definition of a biblical marriage?

Where in the bible does it state how a marriage ceremony is to be conducted?

According to the bible, what is required to show that 2 people are married?

DIFFERENT in the way God convicts - His timing etc...the truth remains the same - that fornication IS a sin. If fornication wasn't a sin, then this discussion would not be happening. Fornication is sex between two UNMARRIED people. THAT will never change. Go and read where I mentioned about wife,husband and divorce. If marriage was not required these words would not be used. It's as simple as that.

You and I both know the Bible does not mention a "set" wedding ceremony....that's being trivial.

[Guest HIS girl]

What I'm wondering is why you have given this man 12 of the best years of your life? IF you are living together, you need to leave, now! If you are a Christian, that is what the Bible says you should do. You can't find it in the Bible that you have to be married because it's not there. Don't waste any more of your life. If he is going to come to the Lord, he will anyway, and you don't want to be a stumbling block by living in sin.

I'm really glad I never come here for advice.

You know man, sometimes the truth hurts but if it's going to save someone from eternal separation from God, then it needs to be said and the temporary hurt is worth it. We can only be complacent for so long before we run into trouble.

Actually the truth doesn't hurt.

Do you see what I highlighted?

G.A.P stated that she loved that man. She came here looking for advice only to have someone question why she wasted 12 years of her life on someone she's in love with.

That's not advice. That's not something I would want to hear if I was the one doing the asking. It's just rude.

I never said she shouldn't get married. I actually didn't give her any advice. I was in her shoes at one time. Like her, it was 12 years. 11 1/2 of those years were very happy years. I wouldn't trade'em for anything. As bad as the last 6 months were, I wouldn't even trade them, because it was at that time, when I was at my lowest I have ever been that God touched me. He showed me things and did things for me that I never thought were possible and He hasn't stopped.

I'm not gonna tell her what she should do. She knows. All she has to do is make a decision.

You all say she's sinning. Name one person on this board that ain't.

There is old saying... When you find that you have worked yourself into a hole, the first thing you do is stop digging. If she is living in sin, then the first thing she needs to do is stop and repent. It really is that simple.

The advice may not be what a person WANTS to hear, but you do a greater disservice by not telling the truth and giving accurate advice.

Doctors don't like telling their patients they have cancer or they are a walking heart attack. But they have to tell the truth, no matter how unpleasant it is.

Agreed.

So why didn't you agree with me????

His

This is where my computor brings me when I click on the link provided by the Worthy Christian Forum and says you responded to me. I hope this is correct. Listen I have been very sick these last two weeks, The only response I remember giving to the individual living with a man for 12 yrs was I Corint. 7 the whole chapter. If it makes anyone feel any better I too lived with a man once until the Holy Spirit broke it up. My heart was broken. My oldest daughter is on her way to her wedding even as we speak but has been living with this man for a while now. Finally they are making things right in the sight of God and my other daughter also followed my bad example before she married and lived with the man... I am a sinner saved by His Grace and grateful for it. AS for reading these posts I do not think I am very good at it. I do know that I do not want to even waste my time with rude mean people. life is to short. If you got my post that was meant for man I am sorry.

Zabby, sorry but I have been responding to man. There has been much confusion.