What did Jesus mean by this verse?

[Guest man]

The problem is that people take what He said "out of context" and apply it to the end of the world. When He spoke it, He was speaking of 70 A.D.

Explain please.

[charlesj]

The problem is that people take what He said "out of context" and apply it to the end of the world. When He spoke it, He was speaking of 70 A.D.

Explain please.

Hello man (adam):

Rather than go through the whole chapter of Matthew 24, I am going to "paste" something I wrote about 15 years ago.

Signs of Impending Destruction

A VERSE BY VERSE LOOK AT MATTHEW 24 OF THE SIGNS.

Messiah Jesus is asked the question:

[Guest man]

So are you saying the 2nd coming of Christ has already happened?

[kross]

I agree with what Kross said here about Jesus doing only what the Father showed Him and that until He was resurrected He worked within the limitations of His earthly body including His omniscience.

just to name a few:

Jesus knew someone would betray Him so .

Jesus knew the rooster would crow and he'd be disowned 3 times.

Jesus knew he'd be crucified.

Jesus knew He was born to die.

that throws away the theory that He lived blindly on earth and only lived on limited information revealed by God the Father.

What in these verses indicates this is not information revealed by HIS FATHER as needed?

[charlesj]

So are you saying the 2nd coming of Christ has already happened?

Hello man..... (thanks for the question)

NO, the second coming has NOT taken place. Did Jesus come in 70 A.D.? Yes Jesus came in the form of an army (this is not the 2nd coming) led by General Titus. He came "in the clouds".... you see this term over and over again in prophetic language to indicate an army that God is using. When you see "coming in clouds" look for an army God is using.

We look for our Lord's return. And accoridng to the apostle Paul "... For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.

But each in his own turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him.

Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power.

For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet.

The last enemy to be destroyed is death. " -1Cor 15:21-26

your servant in Messiah,

charlesj

[Guest man]

Matthew 24:36

"But of that day and hour, knoweth no man, no, not the angels of Heaven, but My Father only."

So this verse has nothing to do with the 2nd coming?

[charlesj]

Matthew 24:36

"But of that day and hour, knoweth no man, no, not the angels of Heaven, but My Father only."

So this verse has nothing to do with the 2nd coming?

Man:

This verse, in context of this chapter, is speaking of the destruction of Jerusalem. It was the "end of the age." It was the last day of the last days.

Many think that the age ended at the cross, but I am of the opinion that this was the "final" string that was tied and ended it all.

To any Jew of that time, for the temple & Jerusalem to be destroyed, it was the end of the world to him.

Hope this makes sense.

your servant in Messiah,

charlesj

[exrockstar]

I agree with what Kross said here about Jesus doing only what the Father showed Him and that until He was resurrected He worked within the limitations of His earthly body including His omniscience.

just to name a few:

Jesus knew someone would betray Him so .

Jesus knew the rooster would crow and he'd be disowned 3 times.

Jesus knew he'd be crucified.

Jesus knew He was born to die.

that throws away the theory that He lived blindly on earth and only lived on limited information revealed by God the Father.

What in these verses indicates this is not information revealed by HIS FATHER as needed?

show me in scripture that the Father reveals these specific things to Christ?

OR that the Father gave Christ warnings.

I'll assume that you do not know the answer if you give a "the bible is silent" answer.

I do have an answer to that but I'll wait til you respond.

[Guest]

Now I truly believe that Jesus is God. One of the Trinity. But I don't understand how He would not know certain things.

Or Even How Could Jesus God The SON Have Died

I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.

As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.

And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.

No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father. John 10:14-18

For Sinners Such As Us

That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Not of works, lest any man should boast. Ephesians 2:7-9

Our Salvation

Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Philippians 2:5-8

God's Glory

Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Philippians 2:9-11

So Trust

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16

God

Then saith he to Thomas, reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side:

and be not faithless, but believing. And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. John 20:27-28

[Fraught]

Matthew 24:36

"But of that day and hour, knoweth no man, no, not the angels of Heaven, but My Father only."

Now I truly believe that Jesus is God. One of the Trinity. But I don't understand how He would not know certain things.

Anybody got any ideas regarding this?

And is this the right forum to ask this question?

Read that verse again.

It says "no man" and "not the angels of heaven".

It doesn't say that Christ doesn't know.

John 10

30 I and My Father are one.

Just a thought.

....no man,

....no angel,

.....but my Father ONLY!

I and My Father are one.

mmm, i like your reply. as a matter of fact, while you'd never find Jesus telling a lie, He never felt obligated to say anything at all. i can even imagine him saying "none of your business", but it seems he was more diplomatic in that case than maybe i would have been. LOL. can we conclude then, that that was his more tactful way of saying it?

i had to come back and add 1 more thing. just that i'm continually amazed at the importance of seemingly simple scripture. this is a good lesson on Jesus' character. to me, it shows how self-assured He was. i don't see him carrying around any kind of stupid obligations that made him feel like he had to appease or impress anyone. seeing Him in contrast to the silly neuroses most of us carry around is kind of sad. HE was how we're supposed to be. well, i see i got more work cut out for me.