Obey God or Mammon

[kittylover0991]

Hey everyone,

I feel like I've posted this before, but it's hard to find a definite answer on this one.

We are to obey God rather than man, but we are to obey our parents, as in the Bible.

The Apostles often had to go against the gov't and preach- Obey God rather than man.

Christ did not obey the religious leaders either, I woudl assume. However, Christ submitted to his parents (Luke 2_49-51)

If a parent tells a child to steal, should they steal or not steal? (When I say child, I'm speaking of say a teenager, not a 4yrs old who might not know better)

I'm sure we'd all agree if the gov't says we can't go to church, we can't read our bibles, or can't pray, we'd surely do it anyway, following God's word. However,

If a parent tells a child to not go to church, should they stay home?

If a parent tells a child not to read their bible, should they not?

If a parent tells a child not to pray, should they not?

Anyone have Bible to really back up a solid answer?

[Guest]

How Many CHildren Die Each Day At The Hands Of Fathers And Uncles And Brothers Because They Will Not Deny The LORD Jesus Christ?

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Battle Ground Earth

And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business? Luke 2:49

The Home Front

Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.

But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. Matthew 10:32-38

The Enemy

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Ephesians 6:12

The Victory

So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? 1 Corinthians 15:54-55

Salvation

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16

Praise His Holy Name

[kittylover0991]

Luk 2:49 And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business?

Luk 2:50 And they understood not the saying which he spake unto them.

Luk 2:51 And he went down with them, and came to Nazareth, and was subject unto them: but his mother kept all these sayings in her heart.

[backontrack]

Hey everyone,

I feel like I've posted this before, but it's hard to find a definite answer on this one.

We are to obey God rather than man, but we are to obey our parents, as in the Bible.

The Apostles often had to go against the gov't and preach- Obey God rather than man.

Christ did not obey the religious leaders either, I woudl assume. However, Christ submitted to his parents (Luke 2_49-51)

If a parent tells a child to steal, should they steal or not steal? (When I say child, I'm speaking of say a teenager, not a 4yrs old who might not know better)

I'm sure we'd all agree if the gov't says we can't go to church, we can't read our bibles, or can't pray, we'd surely do it anyway, following God's word. However,

If a parent tells a child to not go to church, should they stay home?

If a parent tells a child not to read their bible, should they not?

If a parent tells a child not to pray, should they not?

Anyone have Bible to really back up a solid answer?

In order to do some of the things above you must be born again. Sin is quickened to us and therefore becomes Sin and we know it if we are Born Again! Get the Parents Saved and then the kids can see the change in there Life and most times follow suit. Raise a child in the way of the Lord and he will never depart from it, he may stray but will return in time. If a parent says to a child to steal then its obvious that parent is not right with God. Get the parent right and it comes together.

The bible says children obey your parents and it also goes on to say spare the rod or spoil the child. Could this be one reason why our schools and society is in shambles. Yes there are other reasons but from a spiritual stand point it is impossible to live in right standing with God without Jesus!

[kittylover0991]

Hey everyone,

I feel like I've posted this before, but it's hard to find a definite answer on this one.

We are to obey God rather than man, but we are to obey our parents, as in the Bible.

The Apostles often had to go against the gov't and preach- Obey God rather than man.

Christ did not obey the religious leaders either, I woudl assume. However, Christ submitted to his parents (Luke 2_49-51)

If a parent tells a child to steal, should they steal or not steal? (When I say child, I'm speaking of say a teenager, not a 4yrs old who might not know better)

I'm sure we'd all agree if the gov't says we can't go to church, we can't read our bibles, or can't pray, we'd surely do it anyway, following God's word. However,

If a parent tells a child to not go to church, should they stay home?

If a parent tells a child not to read their bible, should they not?

If a parent tells a child not to pray, should they not?

Anyone have Bible to really back up a solid answer?

In order to do some of the things above you must be born again. Sin is quickened to us and therefore becomes Sin and we know it if we are Born Again! Get the Parents Saved and then the kids can see the change in there Life and most times follow suit. Raise a child in the way of the Lord and he will never depart from it, he may stray but will return in time. If a parent says to a child to steal then its obvious that parent is not right with God. Get the parent right and it comes together.

The bible says children obey your parents and it also goes on to say spare the rod or spoil the child. Could this be one reason why our schools and society is in shambles. Yes there are other reasons but from a spiritual stand point it is impossible to live in right standing with God without Jesus!

Hey backon track,

It's been a while Thank you for your post

Just to clarify a particular situation a little more clearly...

Parents are saved, but the child(ren) is not. The parents are cold to the gospel, and the meantime (may or may never get saved), are telling the child(ren) he/she can not go to church.

[arrowfromgod]

W.C.fields was an athiest ,,, his son however was converted and stayed converted even after ol w.c. cut him outa the will ,,, im sure w.c. 's son did as his father said when he was around (if ever i dont know ) but lets say that a kid grew up in nazi germany and was taught to hate and kill jews ,,, blacks ,,, ect.ect. and it was the only thing he knew like he was taught hitler was god ect. ect. and this kid was 14 when the end of the war came and a bunch ppl from some other country came in and told him the truth (denazification) and he chose to change the way he thought and go against what he was taught as a child ,,, ya see the question you ask does'nt give enough info. if the father tells his son to steal and the kid has no other way of knowing its wrong to steal so he does steal is the kid really committing a sin??? and if the father was taught this stealing thing from his father and its all they know ,.,, well can ya see my point ??? lets say i was raised old south (i was)and i was taught by the old men that african americans carry the mark of cane and i was not to associate with them ( a real delima for me ) for my father was taught this by his father ect.ect. and at first i observed this teaching obeying my fathers wishes but started to ask questions that would pertain to this belief ,,, like doesnt the bible say that god marked cain??? where does it say that mark was inherited to his sons??? did one of the sons of noah carry the mark of cain ??? i thought god cleased the world with water and cain's mark couldnt swim ??? so did a black man swim for a year?? why do they teach us that black ppl held high office in the new church ??? did only white ppl live in the middle east ??? eventually my dad stopped telling me to be a bigot i cant say biblically what i just said im not that learned ill study some more ,,,l;ove in christ arrowfromgod

[kittylover0991]

Okay...tehe... thank you for the response. Yankee talking here

Mother and Father are not saved. Have two children, of which were raised on fairly descent standards considering the world. The youngest of the two children started going to church about ten years ago, has been going since. The child also got saved and baptized during that time, and has surrendered to full-time CHristian service.

However, for some reason (which I'm going to have to disclose on here), the parents are saying the child can not go to the services. This isnt' the exact situation, but the child is being told he/she can not go to church when he/she knows that he/she should.

Should the child go anyways, obeying God? or shoudl the child stay home, obeying man?

[backontrack]

Hey everyone,

I feel like I've posted this before, but it's hard to find a definite answer on this one.

We are to obey God rather than man, but we are to obey our parents, as in the Bible.

The Apostles often had to go against the gov't and preach- Obey God rather than man.

Christ did not obey the religious leaders either, I woudl assume. However, Christ submitted to his parents (Luke 2_49-51)

If a parent tells a child to steal, should they steal or not steal? (When I say child, I'm speaking of say a teenager, not a 4yrs old who might not know better)

I'm sure we'd all agree if the gov't says we can't go to church, we can't read our bibles, or can't pray, we'd surely do it anyway, following God's word. However,

If a parent tells a child to not go to church, should they stay home?

If a parent tells a child not to read their bible, should they not?

If a parent tells a child not to pray, should they not?

Anyone have Bible to really back up a solid answer?

In order to do some of the things above you must be born again. Sin is quickened to us and therefore becomes Sin and we know it if we are Born Again! Get the Parents Saved and then the kids can see the change in there Life and most times follow suit. Raise a child in the way of the Lord and he will never depart from it, he may stray but will return in time. If a parent says to a child to steal then its obvious that parent is not right with God. Get the parent right and it comes together.

The bible says children obey your parents and it also goes on to say spare the rod or spoil the child. Could this be one reason why our schools and society is in shambles. Yes there are other reasons but from a spiritual stand point it is impossible to live in right standing with God without Jesus!

Hey backon track,

It's been a while Thank you for your post

Just to clarify a particular situation a little more clearly...

Parents are saved, but the child(ren) is not. The parents are cold to the gospel, and the meantime (may or may never get saved), are telling the child(ren) he/she can not go to church.

Unfortunately there is no correct answer to that question because they all live in the world and the world dictates the response of the parents, even if they are cold. The holy spirit is the only key and prayer if one knows these particular people. The question is hypothetical in nature and I must base all my answers on the bible. If the parents aren

[kittylover0991]

Hey everyone,

I feel like I've posted this before, but it's hard to find a definite answer on this one.

We are to obey God rather than man, but we are to obey our parents, as in the Bible.

The Apostles often had to go against the gov't and preach- Obey God rather than man.

Christ did not obey the religious leaders either, I woudl assume. However, Christ submitted to his parents (Luke 2_49-51)

If a parent tells a child to steal, should they steal or not steal? (When I say child, I'm speaking of say a teenager, not a 4yrs old who might not know better)

I'm sure we'd all agree if the gov't says we can't go to church, we can't read our bibles, or can't pray, we'd surely do it anyway, following God's word. However,

If a parent tells a child to not go to church, should they stay home?

If a parent tells a child not to read their bible, should they not?

If a parent tells a child not to pray, should they not?

Anyone have Bible to really back up a solid answer?

In order to do some of the things above you must be born again. Sin is quickened to us and therefore becomes Sin and we know it if we are Born Again! Get the Parents Saved and then the kids can see the change in there Life and most times follow suit. Raise a child in the way of the Lord and he will never depart from it, he may stray but will return in time. If a parent says to a child to steal then its obvious that parent is not right with God. Get the parent right and it comes together.

The bible says children obey your parents and it also goes on to say spare the rod or spoil the child. Could this be one reason why our schools and society is in shambles. Yes there are other reasons but from a spiritual stand point it is impossible to live in right standing with God without Jesus!

Hey backon track,

It's been a while Thank you for your post

Just to clarify a particular situation a little more clearly...

Parents are saved, but the child(ren) is not. The parents are cold to the gospel, and the meantime (may or may never get saved), are telling the child(ren) he/she can not go to church.

Unfortunately there is no correct answer to that question because they all live in the world and the world dictates the response of the parents, even if they are cold. The holy spirit is the only key and prayer if one knows these particular people. The question is hypothetical in nature and I must base all my answers on the bible. If the parents aren

[Guest]

My parents are not allowing me to go to church throughout the week lik eI know I'm supposed to be.... and I'm 18.... in college... on break

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