The final assualt on the Bible/God...?

December 19, 2008

Honestly I don't know what the answer is...maybe if I stay true to the Word and become hardline in my own walk, then people will see where I'M coming from and where I stand. They won't be confused when it comes to me.

That's been stated a couple times

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Oops..I get it...

you mean others have mentioned that to me don't you?

Well I've also said it.

December 19, 2008

Then you stay away from the ones that allow that behavior.
Will that help?

Why wouldn't it?

You know, you have to draw the line somewhere don't you man?
Stay true to the Word and you won't have to worry about that line.
But that's the thing..I worry about folks...and it get's me annoyed when I have to shut up and take rubbish...

Nobody's telling you to shut up.

There's nothing wrong in stating your beliefs, but you have to understand, you can't change the world.

You can make a difference in someone elses world, and you can keep your own world spotless, but you can't change the direction "the world" has taken.

Does the Church allow practising homosexuals to serve in Church?
This happens and I for one don't agree with it.
It does happen, but there's nothing you can do about it, except stay away from them.
Hmmm...not sure...

Why are you not sure?

December 19, 2008

Then you stay away from the ones that allow that behavior.
Will that help?

Why wouldn't it?

It just seems like closing my eyes to it. That is not helpful.

But that's the thing..I worry about folks...and it get's me annoyed when I have to shut up and take rubbish...

Nobody's telling you to shut up.

There's nothing wrong in stating your beliefs, but you have to understand, you can't change the world.

I struggle with that.

You can make a difference in someone elses world, and you can keep your own world spotless, but you can't change the direction "the world" has taken.

That's where I think the unity of the Church has fallen flat. Look at you and I. Both Believers and both at odds with each other.

It does happen, but there's nothing you can do about it, except stay away from them

Like I said before..it's like I'm turning a blind eye...

December 19, 2008

It just seems like closing my eyes to it. That is not helpful.

Closing your eyes to it is allowing it to take place within your inner circle.

If this is happening within your own church, then yes, say something. If the leaders of the church do nothing to correct the situation, then leave.

That's not closing your eyes to it.

You can't force change on anyone.

I struggle with that.

Struggle with what?

Speaking up, or wanting to change the world?

That's where I think the unity of the Church has fallen flat. Look at you and I. Both Believers and both at odds with each other.

That's because I get all my teachings from the Word. I don't attend church. I find it to be a distraction. I never got anything out of it.

Someone here told me, I wasn't supposed to get anything out of it. So I figure, why go? If it is no to my benefit, why waste the time?

I look around and see the condition that the church is in, and I'm glad I never went. Why would anyone want to be a part of that?

I don't tell people they shouldn't go. Everyone has their own walk.

December 19, 2008

I struggle with that.

Struggle with what?

I want to help matters. I want this world to be a better place. I care, but sometimes I feel no one else really does..even Christians. I struggle with that.

That's where I think the unity of the Church has fallen flat. Look at you and I. Both Believers and both at odds with each other.

That's because I get all my teachings from the Word. I don't attend church. I find it to be a distraction. I never got anything out of it.

I also listen to the Word. I go to Church though. I DO need to be around fellow Believers...

Someone here told me, I wasn't supposed to get anything out of it. So I figure, why go? If it is no to my benefit, why waste the time?

Wow...I have never heard that before.

dcampsart · December 19, 2008

Then you stay away from the ones that allow that behavior.
Will that help?
Why wouldn't it?
It just seems like closing my eyes to it. That is not helpful.

But that's the thing..I worry about folks...and it get's me annoyed when I have to shut up and take rubbish...
Nobody's telling you to shut up.

There's nothing wrong in stating your beliefs, but you have to understand, you can't change the world.
I struggle with that.

You can make a difference in someone elses world, and you can keep your own world spotless, but you can't change the direction "the world" has taken.
That's where I think the unity of the Church has fallen flat. Look at you and I. Both Believers and both at odds with each other.

It does happen, but there's nothing you can do about it, except stay away from them
Like I said before..it's like I'm turning a blind eye...

After reading all of the responses here, I was wondering if one might read something that may be of interest to this topic.

I don't know... maybe not. The reading may be a little lengthy but try to get the writer's point about the fruit of a hireling shepherding the flock. I just know I wouldn't want to be known to the Lord as a hireling and not a good shepherd or steward of HIS flock.

Edited December 19, 2008 by dcampsart

December 19, 2008

Then you stay away from the ones that allow that behavior.
Will that help?

Why wouldn't it?
It just seems like closing my eyes to it. That is not helpful.

But that's the thing..I worry about folks...and it get's me annoyed when I have to shut up and take rubbish...

Nobody's telling you to shut up.

There's nothing wrong in stating your beliefs, but you have to understand, you can't change the world.

I struggle with that.

You can make a difference in someone elses world, and you can keep your own world spotless, but you can't change the direction "the world" has taken.

That's where I think the unity of the Church has fallen flat. Look at you and I. Both Believers and both at odds with each other.

It does happen, but there's nothing you can do about it, except stay away from them

Like I said before..it's like I'm turning a blind eye...

After reading all of the responses here, I was wondering if one might read something that may be of interest to this topic.

I don't know... maybe not. The reading may be a little lengthy but try to get the writer's point about the fruit of a hireling shepherding the flock. I just know I wouldn't want to be known to the Lord as a hireling and not a good shepherd or steward of HIS flock.

Thanks, I'll read that soon. Have to go right now.

December 19, 2008

I struggle with that.
Struggle with what?
I want to help matters. I want this world to be a better place. I care, but sometimes I feel no one else really does..even Christians. I struggle with that.

I too would like to make the world a better place in which to live, but the fact is, I can't.

The world is like it is for a reason.

I believe we are moving into the end times. How long before the end? I have no idea. But the Word tells us that there will be a falling away, and I believe we are witnessing that event.

There's nothing we can do about it. It's gonna happen.

That's where I think the unity of the Church has fallen flat. Look at you and I. Both Believers and both at odds with each other.
That's because I get all my teachings from the Word. I don't attend church. I find it to be a distraction. I never got anything out of it.
I also listen to the Word. I go to Church though. I DO need to be around fellow Believers...

I don't listen to the Word, I study it.

The Word says there is only One teacher and that teacher is Christ. I trust the Holy Spirit to guide me in the truth.

As for being around fellow believers, I never experienced that so I don't need it or miss it. My fellowship is with the Lord.

I see nothing wrong with your needing to be with other believers.

Someone here told me, I wasn't supposed to get anything out of it. So I figure, why go? If it is no to my benefit, why waste the time?
Wow...I have never heard that before.

I'll see if I can find the quote.

You'll be surprised at who made it.

EricH · December 19, 2008

As for being around fellow believers, I never experienced that so I don't need it or miss it. My fellowship is with the Lord.

You may have an issue with your experience versus what God asks of us

Let us hold on to the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful. And let us be concerned about one another in order to promote love and good works, not staying away from our meetings, as some habitually do, but encouraging each other, and all the more as you see the day drawing near.

Hebrews 10:23-25 HCSB

December 19, 2008

As for being around fellow believers, I never experienced that so I don't need it or miss it. My fellowship is with the Lord.

You may have an issue with your experience versus what God asks of us

Let us hold on to the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful. And let us be concerned about one another in order to promote love and good works, not staying away from our meetings, as some habitually do, but encouraging each other, and all the more as you see the day drawing near.

Hebrews 10:23-25 HCSB

Hebrews 10

23 Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful.

24 And let us consider one another in order to stir up love and good works,

25 not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is the manner of some, but exhorting one another, and so much the more as you see the Day approaching. NKJV

What is your interpretation of "the assembling"?